This video was shared at Audiocircle and I thought I'd share it for all the good people here. Please let me know what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrpUDuUtxPM

Ian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrpUDuUtxPM

Ian
Brilliant - great stage presence. I wanna know the identity of the $1800 pair - I can hazard a guess at the pretty ESL hybrid.
Just quickly jumped in at one point - he mentions the JBL M2 as being about as good as it gets - I note that YouTube videos so far showcasing these units demonstrate some audible artifacts. Most likely source problems, but interesting that more effort wasn't made to get cleaner sound ...
mono, panpot over there etc. blind double/blindBrilliant - great stage presence. 😛 this retirement thing is harder than it looks for some folks 😱

... I wanna know the identity of the $1800 pair ...
Infinity Interlude IL60.
Just quickly jumped in at one point - he mentions the JBL M2 as being about as good as it gets - I note that YouTube videos so far showcasing these units demonstrate some audible artifacts. Most likely source problems, but interesting that more effort wasn't made to get cleaner sound ...
Let me get this straight, you are judging a speaker based on a youtube recording and playback?
Let me get this straight, you are judging a speaker based on a youtube recording and playback?
Via a laptop?
Infinity Interlude IL60.
is that even a current model? all that Google search turned up locally was "for sale by owner" type ads, and older reviews.
not that I'm in the market for a commercial speaker any time soon, but just curious
Yes, it's a very simple process. Most such videos also pick up the voices of the people in attendence, and lots of extraneous noises in the space where the system is playing. Moving of chairs, rustling of paper, lots of natural sounds that you know are 100% "real". That sets the benchmark for the quality of the recording and playback chain, you have a reference for what convincing sound should come across like, through that filtering chain.Let me get this straight, you are judging a speaker based on a youtube recording and playback?
If the system is doing its job well then the quality of the sound in every area should match that reference quality - if it doesn't - and typically audio systems in YouTube clips sound very artificial, fake - then you know the sound has problems.
The M2s were pretty good, but the vocals weren't quite there, there was a touch of "honkiness" in the sound, for some reason ...
is that even a current model? ...
No, they're discontinued. They didn't sell well. Too cheap (in price and looks).
Typical, looks more important than sound. Like everything else these days, the illusion is more important than the substance.
-----------------------Yes, it's a very simple process. Most such videos also pick up the voices of the people in attendence, and lots of extraneous noises in the space where the system is playing. Moving of chairs, rustling of paper, lots of natural sounds that you know are 100% "real". That sets the benchmark for the quality of the recording and playback chain, you have a reference for what convincing sound should come across like, through that filtering chain.
If the system is doing its job well then the quality of the sound in every area should match that reference quality - if it doesn't - and typically audio systems in YouTube clips sound very artificial, fake - then you know the sound has problems.
The M2s were pretty good, but the vocals weren't quite there, there was a touch of "honkiness" in the sound, for some reason ...
I don't find the argument convincing. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.
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