Flat Earthers

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I'm sure the lens has plenty of distortion, but typically it'll be positive barrel, which would be compensating for the downward bend from the horizon. (Since the horizon is *slightly* above the middle of the image). Pano could satisfy people if he took a similar picture from the ground (looking out on a flat horizon) to address the lens distortion.
 

The lift force generated by the wings of your airplane :
1/2 * specific density air * airplane speed squared * wing area * lift coefficient

At the set power and trim** values, the specific density of the air sets the flying altitude.
** the angle of attack sets the value of the lift coefficient.

(Antennas for marine VHF radios are mounted as high as possible, for sailing yachts on top of the masts : http://cdn.boatinternational.com/bi...tos-of-Sailing-Yacht-A-Nobiskrug-1280x720.jpg
By mounting a 2nd VHF antenna on a sailing yacht on a low position, it's easy to get an estimate of the earth's curvature)
 
Hit your buddy over the head with a yard sale globe about a dozen times. Once his brain swells and contacts his skull he will believe anything. At that time, tell him the world is round, and PRESTO!, he will be a believer. It's called the scientific method, folks, wasn't anyone listening in 5th grade science?
 
Freudian slip?? 😀

Well actually just a keystroke error on correcting whatever I'd typed earlier - can't remember - I've moved on.

magicbus - including my Dad's tales of walking to school in the snow in Brandon, Manitoba, ( how many miles, Jay?) and my 10 mile round trip delivering newspapers as a kid, I know that such journeys are uphill both ways. So even before the Mercury, Gemini and Appolo missions of the 60s, I was pretty sure the earth wasn't flat.

Oblate spheroid - considering the immense depth of the molten layers between the presumed sold iron core and the floating plates of land mass an all that water, that almost made sense to a 12yr old.
 
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I am going to most like need some help with figuring out the maths for the laser experiment.

Here is my problem. Part of the doing the math requires taking into account the earth's diameter. But if they dont believe the earth is round they will refute the data. Is there a way to do this without it? Also should the laser be at a right angle to the earth's diameter?
 
Don't waste your time trying to change his mind: this kind of magic thinking has its roots in the need of faith, the need of easy solutions, the need of order in a chaotic world where they feel threatened. And I don't blame them for feeling this way, it's logical. But they take the illogical way trying to find the cure. Feeding them with rational explanations won't do anything at all, I'm afraid, only will make them more suspicious . We always think that rationality can cure irrationality, but facts show us that this is an irrational thought too, and that people won't change his beliefs in the basis of scientific demonstrations.

The problem arises when this beliefs guide people actions in sensitive issues. Remember how Steve Jobs died. Or take a look at this:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=68636.0

Believing that 1,000 $ cables will improve your sound won't make you any harm. Looking at the sun...

I remember studying rumour spread at univeristy: they found that the contribution of evidence, facts, didn't change the belief in the lie of rumour. It even beefed up this belief ("hey, they want to convince us because they want to prevent us from knowing the truth", the typical conspiranoic thinking). That's because the rumour spreads using people's prejudices, and prejudices are not rational. Prejudices grow on fears, hopes, insecurities, emotions...
 
How do the elders of radical flatism explain the shortest distance between two points on the surface of the Earth not being a straight line?

Actually I don't care. I suspect they'll ask for donations to buy a very long piece of string because they can't afford to buy it themselves and blah blah blah

And then, guess what, they won't buy a piece of string for lots of frankly warped reasons most of which are more likely to do with self gratification than anything else
 
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Don't waste your time trying to change his mind: this kind of magic thinking has its roots in the need of faith, the need of easy solutions, the need of order in a chaotic world where they feel threatened. And I don't blame them for feeling this way, it's logical. But they take the illogical way trying to find the cure. Feeding them with rational explanations won't do anything at all, I'm afraid, only will make them more suspicious . We always think that rationality can cure irrationality, but facts show us that this is an irrational thought too, and that people won't change his beliefs in the basis of scientific demonstrations.

The problem arises when this beliefs guide people actions in sensitive issues. Remember how Steve Jobs died. Or take a look at this:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=68636.0

Believing that 1,000 $ cables will improve your sound won't make you any harm. Looking at the sun...

I remember studying rumour spread at univeristy: they found that the contribution of evidence, facts, didn't change the belief in the lie of rumour. It even beefed up this belief ("hey, they want to convince us because they want to prevent us from knowing the truth", the typical conspiranoic thinking). That's because the rumour spreads using people's prejudices, and prejudices are not rational. Prejudices grow on fears, hopes, insecurities, emotions...
Humans have the knowledge of finitive... and need to overcome this! Some of us on the basis on a flat and stable world. Other -many- ways are also used for the same purpose.
 
From this week's new scientist:
"FLAT Earth adherents have offered a prize of $8250 to anyone who can prove the world is round before their forthcoming congress ends. David Garret accepted the challenge, and outlines his methodology thus: “I’ll need a garden chair, some rope, 10 high-altitude weather balloons, a lot of helium and one volunteer from the Flat Earthers’ meeting.” After all, they do say that seeing is believing."
 
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