Hi thanks for all the replies, I should probably have said that what I am searching for is "airiness".
Although I can't really hear much beyond 13 kHz, but I can still airiness all right.
I think now might be a good time to discuss what exactly is airiness. My take is how the tweeter response at very low levels. An extended tweeter has a higher probability of responding well to low level treble bettrr rather than how high the frequency it responds to.
Oon
Although I can't really hear much beyond 13 kHz, but I can still airiness all right.
I think now might be a good time to discuss what exactly is airiness. My take is how the tweeter response at very low levels. An extended tweeter has a higher probability of responding well to low level treble bettrr rather than how high the frequency it responds to.
Oon
You should define what is airiness and low levels as well.
If it's about soundstage or hearing about reverbs details in venues for example.
It has certainly more importance to choose the right directivity patern according what you are looking for. Maybe what you want may be controlled directivity in the low trebles that match your full range off axis til 30 degrees or more. Or uses the reverb of your room to match airiness if called venues reverbs?
Not the same tweeters, not the same importance of your room and indeed if low levels is not about spl but low trebles behavior as 2k to 10k for examples.
So not sure what you really need is a super tweeter but a proper tweeter that match your targett. At the end I'm not sure a Full range is the best for that so one can understand super tweeter are prefered not to disturb the said qualities of the FR.
A good 3/4 dome tweeter with a low XO under the MF curve peak is perhaps all you need but will destroy the others qualities of the FR ...not being a FR anymore... Often the domes give this feeling of airiness due to the surfaces reflexions of the room surfaces. But if you want air between the instrument you may prefer controlled directivity perhaps... something hard to match between two drivers. I assume indeed the only choice you have is to try a high XO first order to keep the main FR driver qualities hoping the curve of the tweeter bellow its XO rules the highs and roll off of the FR.
I would try ZU audio way with a XO between 8k to.... more in relation to the spl of the tweeter which has not to be a super tweeter as you and the others guessed, but more a helper. Anyway the room matters if bright or mat sounding, empty or full of furnitures and things.
But I notice late Linkwitz used two tweeters in phase opposition to play with the room reverbs.
But sure what you re looking for is certainly more around 8K than 15 or 20k Htz...
If it's about soundstage or hearing about reverbs details in venues for example.
It has certainly more importance to choose the right directivity patern according what you are looking for. Maybe what you want may be controlled directivity in the low trebles that match your full range off axis til 30 degrees or more. Or uses the reverb of your room to match airiness if called venues reverbs?
Not the same tweeters, not the same importance of your room and indeed if low levels is not about spl but low trebles behavior as 2k to 10k for examples.
So not sure what you really need is a super tweeter but a proper tweeter that match your targett. At the end I'm not sure a Full range is the best for that so one can understand super tweeter are prefered not to disturb the said qualities of the FR.
A good 3/4 dome tweeter with a low XO under the MF curve peak is perhaps all you need but will destroy the others qualities of the FR ...not being a FR anymore... Often the domes give this feeling of airiness due to the surfaces reflexions of the room surfaces. But if you want air between the instrument you may prefer controlled directivity perhaps... something hard to match between two drivers. I assume indeed the only choice you have is to try a high XO first order to keep the main FR driver qualities hoping the curve of the tweeter bellow its XO rules the highs and roll off of the FR.
I would try ZU audio way with a XO between 8k to.... more in relation to the spl of the tweeter which has not to be a super tweeter as you and the others guessed, but more a helper. Anyway the room matters if bright or mat sounding, empty or full of furnitures and things.
But I notice late Linkwitz used two tweeters in phase opposition to play with the room reverbs.
But sure what you re looking for is certainly more around 8K than 15 or 20k Htz...
Since speaker systems are movable objects, it's been the usual case of aiming them towards the listening position for improved high frequency results.
And as mentioned, room acoustics play an important part of the mix.
And as mentioned, room acoustics play an important part of the mix.
Yeah, same impressions as me. 0.1-0.3 mH values I had on hand for a mild reduction of the treble of the FR, little Audax cheap tweeters or cone tweeters, but I left the game- No good FRs such Mark Audio to play with and no supertweeters, and I focused my energies on a good 3 way ( which has the tweeter crossed - a Dayton mini 8- over 10 kHz, by the way ) which I prefer.
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