Does anyone care to speculate whether the FaitalPRO 12HP1060 would be good enough up to 1.2-1.6kHz to pair with a SEOS-12 or similar 1" CD horn in an Econowave style?
I'm actually building a 3-way at the moment with its ferrite brother, the 12HP1030. This will be crossed at around 325Hz to a PR170M0 midrange (and at 2-2.2kHz to a STH100/HF10AK combo) for better midrange.
However, this single neo unit (12HP1060) basically fell into my lap with no specific plans for it. They're pricey new, so I won't be buying another for now.
So, just for kicks, rather than selling it, I was considering building an outdoor Bluetooth party speaker based around it (think JBL Partybox). In this application, a two-way would simplify things considerably (physical size, amp modules, cost etc.), but I don't want to waste my time building something that's going to sound like crap.
It's obviously not going to sound as good in the midrange as a lower Le and Mms driver, like the 12PR320 or perhaps even the 12FH520 (never mind the TD12M or 12P80Nd that I have elsewhere), but I won't be spending any money on new parts for this (except for a 13S battery pack to power the TPA3255 modules). Punchy, loud bass is more important than midrange anyway in this kind of speaker, and it would have DSP to EQ the response.
I've got a 6PR150 (with a spare STH100/CDX1-1745 combo), or a 4FE35, or a 3Fe22 (with a suitable spare tweeter) that I could use for mid, but again, I would like to avoid 3-way if possible. And with sheet wood costing what it does now and free time being rare, I'd rather just plan it out right from the beginning and not have to build a test box to see for myself, especially on this meant-just-for-fun project.
I'm actually building a 3-way at the moment with its ferrite brother, the 12HP1030. This will be crossed at around 325Hz to a PR170M0 midrange (and at 2-2.2kHz to a STH100/HF10AK combo) for better midrange.
However, this single neo unit (12HP1060) basically fell into my lap with no specific plans for it. They're pricey new, so I won't be buying another for now.
So, just for kicks, rather than selling it, I was considering building an outdoor Bluetooth party speaker based around it (think JBL Partybox). In this application, a two-way would simplify things considerably (physical size, amp modules, cost etc.), but I don't want to waste my time building something that's going to sound like crap.
It's obviously not going to sound as good in the midrange as a lower Le and Mms driver, like the 12PR320 or perhaps even the 12FH520 (never mind the TD12M or 12P80Nd that I have elsewhere), but I won't be spending any money on new parts for this (except for a 13S battery pack to power the TPA3255 modules). Punchy, loud bass is more important than midrange anyway in this kind of speaker, and it would have DSP to EQ the response.
I've got a 6PR150 (with a spare STH100/CDX1-1745 combo), or a 4FE35, or a 3Fe22 (with a suitable spare tweeter) that I could use for mid, but again, I would like to avoid 3-way if possible. And with sheet wood costing what it does now and free time being rare, I'd rather just plan it out right from the beginning and not have to build a test box to see for myself, especially on this meant-just-for-fun project.
Sure!....the response is already starting to tilt down around 900hz and there's nothing in the breakup other than narrow notches to worry about. A simple 2nd order electric will give you a nice slope combined with the acoustic roll off.
On a side note, two 6.5" midwoofers side by side could also be used...... would extend the horizontal directivity lower with the side to side combing......you'd have to choose non pro drivers though if you wanna get the same bass response as a 12 and you'll need to accept a little bit of efficiency lost. The secondary advantage is the vertical lobe between the mids and CD is reduced substantially by the decrease in the vertical C to C spacing. I have used this option with much success in home baffle wall installations and stand alone 3 ways with a 15" woofer below.
On a side note, two 6.5" midwoofers side by side could also be used...... would extend the horizontal directivity lower with the side to side combing......you'd have to choose non pro drivers though if you wanna get the same bass response as a 12 and you'll need to accept a little bit of efficiency lost. The secondary advantage is the vertical lobe between the mids and CD is reduced substantially by the decrease in the vertical C to C spacing. I have used this option with much success in home baffle wall installations and stand alone 3 ways with a 15" woofer below.
Thanks! Yes the factory response is workable (unsurpirsingly), especially with EQ, but would this woofer nevertheless sound slow or muffled, i.e. lack speed, clarity and transparency, in the midrange? That's the worry.
The side-by-side 6.5" is a cool idea in general but for this particular project I'm bound to my bonus 12HP1060.
The side-by-side 6.5" is a cool idea in general but for this particular project I'm bound to my bonus 12HP1060.
The whole ‘speed’ thing is quite nonsensical…..and yes, 12” midbass drivers can sound great…..and Faital Pro is pretty consistent with performance and quality.
...especially with EQ, but would this woofer nevertheless sound slow or muffled, i.e. lack speed, clarity and transparency, in the midrange? That's the worry.
It depends on designer's skills, not the unit properties, in your case.