"Ahhhh, the hum breaking resistors... this seems to come up again and again with the F5. There were a few posts about modifying the diyAudio boards to add those resistors. Try searching for it".
What posts????
Eivind S
Look here and the following posts.
By having an extremely low-impedance and low resistance ground. The easiest way to try it is attach ALL (including the signal input grounds) to one point on the PSU ground. Star-grounding is a common name for it.
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Do this. Attach the speaker negatives and the input signal negatives to it as well. (Yes, the input from the RCA to the PCB will only be the positive!) The only ground connection from the amplifier boards will be the one wire attaching V+/gnd/V- to the PSU.
A nice and solid star GND in the amp is certainly good to avoid hum / ground loops within the amp. But I don't see how it would break the loop that is formed by the external wires and their GND connections on both sides (at the source and at the amp):
Source GND ---> left channel cable GND ---> power amp GND ---> right channel cable GND ---> Source GND
A common approach to break this loop is to insert resistors between the GND connections of the left and the right cables. See here (section "The Cross Channel Ground Loop Remedy").
Hello
I have 6, Nippon Chemi-con U32D 68,000uf 50v capacitors, that I would like to use in a F5t power supply.
Would it be possable to configured these as CRCRC.
If this is possible, how would the R be calculated.
I have 6, Nippon Chemi-con U32D 68,000uf 50v capacitors, that I would like to use in a F5t power supply.
Would it be possable to configured these as CRCRC.
If this is possible, how would the R be calculated.
It's probably better to arrange as CRCC, to keep losses to a minimum. This is a power amp after all...
(6) 0.47 3W resistors in parallel (as in the original PSU) is roughly an 18W 0.1ohm resistor.
You could search for something like that, or just parallel a bunch of the 3W resistors, which is a lot easier.
(6) 0.47 3W resistors in parallel (as in the original PSU) is roughly an 18W 0.1ohm resistor.
You could search for something like that, or just parallel a bunch of the 3W resistors, which is a lot easier.
Hello
I have 6, Nippon Chemi-con U32D 68,000uf 50v capacitors, that I would like to use in a F5t power supply.
Would it be possable to configured these as CRCRC.
If this is possible, how would the R be calculated.
make R of the rCRC small.
Try 5 off 1r0 in parallel for an effective 0r2.
If you use the standard 600mW resistors then you have a continuous current rating of 3.87A
That's a lot of bias for any ClassA amplifier.
Make the final C big enough to supply all the LF transients.
The first r is the sum of all the resistances in the charging circuit, (transformer+rectifier+all the wiring).
Since you are proposing 3 sets of capacitors you have a choice of using a three stage filter rCRCRC or what I would recommend is using a two stage rCRCC where the doubled CC supplies all the LF transients demanded by the speaker.
But do check you have adequate ripple capability in the first C, otherwise you could overheat it and severely shorten it's life.
Use PSUD2 to check the ripple on that first capacitor.
A cheap way to buy extra ripple capability is to install many paralleled capacitors in that first location, eg. 5off 2m2F instead of 10mF or 10off 4m7F instead of 47mF, if that's what PSUD2 suggests.
Try 5 off 1r0 in parallel for an effective 0r2.
If you use the standard 600mW resistors then you have a continuous current rating of 3.87A
That's a lot of bias for any ClassA amplifier.
Make the final C big enough to supply all the LF transients.
The first r is the sum of all the resistances in the charging circuit, (transformer+rectifier+all the wiring).
Since you are proposing 3 sets of capacitors you have a choice of using a three stage filter rCRCRC or what I would recommend is using a two stage rCRCC where the doubled CC supplies all the LF transients demanded by the speaker.
But do check you have adequate ripple capability in the first C, otherwise you could overheat it and severely shorten it's life.
Use PSUD2 to check the ripple on that first capacitor.
A cheap way to buy extra ripple capability is to install many paralleled capacitors in that first location, eg. 5off 2m2F instead of 10mF or 10off 4m7F instead of 47mF, if that's what PSUD2 suggests.
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A few moments of searching came up with this data sheet... http://www.chemi-con.com/upload/files/8/1/1061909384505b66a161392.pdf
...and it shows that your caps are rated for a breathtaking 27A rms ripple capacity. 😀
Build happily away! Those will work beautifully for this PSU.
...and it shows that your caps are rated for a breathtaking 27A rms ripple capacity. 😀
Build happily away! Those will work beautifully for this PSU.
hi all. will be pair of 300VA 240V/24Vх12,5А torroids nice choice to simple F5 amp (not turbo)?
The recommendation for the standard F5 transformer is with 2x18V secondaries to give +-23vdc.
thanks. maybe there is a smart way to reduce from 24v to 18v? curious because of possible good bargain on two 300VA 24V. or just to get 400VA with 18V+18V and dont create promblems
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have another one noobe question.
what is better to use in F5 with 400VA 18V+18V for single rail
1. good 22000 ROE LL 80V + 2x 10000 ROE Elko 63V
2. 4x (or 5x per rail) 10000 ROE ROE Elko 63V
what is better to use in F5 with 400VA 18V+18V for single rail
1. good 22000 ROE LL 80V + 2x 10000 ROE Elko 63V
2. 4x (or 5x per rail) 10000 ROE ROE Elko 63V
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one friend told me than pair of ROE "LL" 22000uf 80v would be enough for all F5 amp (one 22000 per channel). have some doubts about it... he is noob as me ))
both good arrangements
thanks you man! so just pair of ROE 22000 80V would be not enough for F5?
ok. sorry for million stupid questions (hard to be noob). is voltage of capacitors means? bigger is better? or 35V is optimum (for 18V+18V torroidal).
thanks you a LOT!
thanks you a LOT!
Pa is using good ones , of "just" 25Vdc
...for better sleep - use 35V
however , even bigger voltage ........ doesn't matter - if you already have them , use them
...for better sleep - use 35V
however , even bigger voltage ........ doesn't matter - if you already have them , use them
good morning to all! have a question about heat radiator for F5 (not F5T). Have an idea to use pair of these per channel.
182x45x70 mm S>=1300 cm2
would be enough?
182x45x70 mm S>=1300 cm2
would be enough?
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Far too small!
200 wide by 120 tall with fins >=50mm deep on a backplate >=10mm thick should do for most F5 builds in a temperate/nordic climate.
India/Brazil etc. will need more cooling.
200 wide by 120 tall with fins >=50mm deep on a backplate >=10mm thick should do for most F5 builds in a temperate/nordic climate.
India/Brazil etc. will need more cooling.
Far too small!
200 wide by 120 tall with fins >=50mm deep on a backplate >=10mm thick should do for most F5 builds in a temperate/nordic climate.
India/Brazil etc. will need more cooling.
Thank you. So maybe four of these per channel (8x per amp) must be good for F5?
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