I think much of the Spanish game has been psychological...getting their opponents to spend so much time and energy in counteracting their style and formation instead of playing their own game...and forcing the Spaniards to adjust...which they do not like....this is where the German team are masters...they can play whatever game they wish, defensive long enough to lull their opponents into some false sense they have momentum only to strike a dagger into the opposing net or full-out balls to wall offence! Their strikers can be deadly with only the slightest opening while their midfield are equal offensive threats...if Spain brings its regular game it will be disaster for them as Joachim Löw is not some tentative, hesitant or timid coach...he's smart, he's tough and the German Football program has arguably yielded a crop of players that man for man can't be rivaled in terms of confidence and poise under pressure...I've never rooted for Germany but I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for the momentum this team has been building with nary a misstep. Spain would much prefer Portugal or Italy as opponents...like Holland they've been lulled in many respects into believing their own hype...and if that is, in fact, the case they're in for a heck of a rude awakening if they should happen to face Germany in the final. IMO
Interestingly, the Germans sing their national anthem, whereas the Spanish team didn't last time I watched. They have rather different conceptions of national identity, but seemingly equal determination to win.
I don't think you can read much into that as the spanish national anthem is an instrumental piece of music without lyrics.
Married a manufactured singer with an eating disorder and moved to this side of the pond where his diminished skills are not so much a concern.
I think he is referring to Peter Crouch rather than David Beckham.
I don't think you can read much into that as the spanish national anthem is an instrumental piece of music without lyrics.
Oh, OK, silly me! So how are people supposed to take part? The team just stare grimly into the distance. Shouldn't they put their hands on their hearts, or something?
After the world cup, many Catalans were unhappy that the Spanish flag was flying everywhere, feeling that the contribution of Barcelona had been misappropriated. I thought perhaps they were trying to ignore the issue this time.
The Germans own their National anthem , the Spanish are paying royalties...
Mr Wayne,
you're now entering the sensitivity zone, that could be International anthem.
(our local national lyrics start with "am i of German blood" , cheesica was also part of the German empire in the middle-ages)
Fuussball, not politics, mi hermanos !
the spanish national anthem is an instrumental piece of music without lyrics.
Spanish National Anthem lyrics, adopted 2008 according to Google:
al inmenso mar,
un himno e hermandad.
Ama a la Patria
pues sabe abrazar,
bajo su cielo azul,
pueblos en libertad.
Gloria a los hijos
que a la Historia dan
justicia y grandeza
democracia y paz.
I think he is referring to Peter Crouch rather than David Beckham.
Yes, I couldn't resist. 🙂
From wiki:
Lyrics
Though the Marcha Real has no lyrics, words have been written and used for it in the past. One version was used during Alfonso XIII's reign and another during General Franco's dictatorship; however, none of them were ever made official. The national anthem has been played without words since 1978, when the lyrics that had been approved by General Francisco Franco were abandoned.[7]
[edit]Lyric competition
After witnessing a rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone" at Anfield in 2007, the President of the Spanish Olympic Committee, Alejandro Blanco, said he felt inspired to seek lyrics to La Marcha Real ahead of Madrid's bid to host the 2016 Olympic Games.[8][9] Politicians, including the PM José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, steered clear of the issue in order not to alienate some Basques, Catalans, or Galicians who tend to identify with their own regions rather than with the Spanish state.[10] A number of the autonomous communities of Spain have their own anthems. An open competition for the lyrics resulted in 7,000 entries.[11]
[edit]Proposed lyrics
Spanish lyrics
¡Viva España!
Cantemos todos juntos
con distinta voz
y un solo corazón.
¡Viva España!
Desde los verdes valles
al inmenso mar,
un himno e hermandad.
Ama a la Patria
pues sabe abrazar,
bajo su cielo azul,
pueblos en libertad.
Gloria a los hijos
que a la Historia dan
justicia y grandeza
democracia y paz.[12]
English lyrics
Long live Spain!
We sing together,
with different voices,
and only one heart.
Long live Spain!
From the green valleys,
to the immense sea,
a hymn of brotherhood.
Love the Fatherland,
which knows how to embrace,
below the blue sky,
people in freedom.
Glory to the sons,
who have given to history,
justice and greatness,
democracy and peace.[13]
On January 16, 2008, just five days after presenting the competition winner to the public, the Spanish Olympic Committee withdrew the proposal after widespread public criticism due to the lyrics' supposed nationalist tone.[14]
Lyrics
Though the Marcha Real has no lyrics, words have been written and used for it in the past. One version was used during Alfonso XIII's reign and another during General Franco's dictatorship; however, none of them were ever made official. The national anthem has been played without words since 1978, when the lyrics that had been approved by General Francisco Franco were abandoned.[7]
[edit]Lyric competition
After witnessing a rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone" at Anfield in 2007, the President of the Spanish Olympic Committee, Alejandro Blanco, said he felt inspired to seek lyrics to La Marcha Real ahead of Madrid's bid to host the 2016 Olympic Games.[8][9] Politicians, including the PM José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, steered clear of the issue in order not to alienate some Basques, Catalans, or Galicians who tend to identify with their own regions rather than with the Spanish state.[10] A number of the autonomous communities of Spain have their own anthems. An open competition for the lyrics resulted in 7,000 entries.[11]
[edit]Proposed lyrics
Spanish lyrics
¡Viva España!
Cantemos todos juntos
con distinta voz
y un solo corazón.
¡Viva España!
Desde los verdes valles
al inmenso mar,
un himno e hermandad.
Ama a la Patria
pues sabe abrazar,
bajo su cielo azul,
pueblos en libertad.
Gloria a los hijos
que a la Historia dan
justicia y grandeza
democracia y paz.[12]
English lyrics
Long live Spain!
We sing together,
with different voices,
and only one heart.
Long live Spain!
From the green valleys,
to the immense sea,
a hymn of brotherhood.
Love the Fatherland,
which knows how to embrace,
below the blue sky,
people in freedom.
Glory to the sons,
who have given to history,
justice and greatness,
democracy and peace.[13]
On January 16, 2008, just five days after presenting the competition winner to the public, the Spanish Olympic Committee withdrew the proposal after widespread public criticism due to the lyrics' supposed nationalist tone.[14]
Spanish National Anthem lyrics, adopted 2008 according to Google
Due to my nationality I guess I should say something about this. Where to start?
First off, lyrics go like this: ta ta ta ta, tata, tata ta, tata ta ta..... or: chinta, chinta, ta, chinta.... I've always thought it sounded awful. Really primitive, man-cave hymn. Not really sophisticated or sweet sounding. And it has no lyrics, there have been some attempts but never worked out.
As for the hands on our hearts.... first time I saw that was at school in Miami (which is supposed to be USA) when I was a teenager. Kinda freaked me out. We don't do that kind of stuff here. It's not in vogue, never was.
How handy !
That way the Basque can do their Eusko lyrics, the Catalan can sing a reaper version, the Galicians can do a pine tree song, etcetera, and who cares what the Andalucians do.
Chinta, Chinta, Ta, Chinta doesn't sound half bad, quite catchy actually.
Maybe add a little salsa, some coraçon/corazon here and there, a bit of ay-ay-ay-ay and all that other Gitano stuff.
That way the Basque can do their Eusko lyrics, the Catalan can sing a reaper version, the Galicians can do a pine tree song, etcetera, and who cares what the Andalucians do.
Chinta, Chinta, Ta, Chinta doesn't sound half bad, quite catchy actually.
Maybe add a little salsa, some coraçon/corazon here and there, a bit of ay-ay-ay-ay and all that other Gitano stuff.
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Mr Wayne,
you're now entering the sensitivity zone, that could be International anthem.
(our local national lyrics start with "am i of German blood" , cheesica was also part of the German empire in the middle-ages)
Fuussball, not politics, mi hermanos !
😀....Well Germany/ Spain final ..... otherwards known as the Bail-out Final !!! .............

Yes, I couldn't resist. 🙂
Well, I believed him. Shows how much attention I pay to popular culture. 🙂
Well ...
uhhhmmmm..
I've been delegated to suppress this voices in the air

Just crossing fingers

uhhhmmmm..
I've been delegated to suppress this voices in the air

Just crossing fingers

Chinta, Chinta, Ta, Chinta doesn't sound half bad, quite catchy actually.
Well, that's my version. I think I've improved the hymn without realizing.
the Basque can do their Eusko lyrics, the Catalan can sing a reaper version, the Galicians can..
I don't think regional differences were the problem, the lyrics sounded silly to most of us and that was it.
Panem Et Circenses
Not quite. Although some countries still show a lion here and there.
As for the hands on our hearts.... first time I saw that was at school in Miami (which is supposed to be USA) when I was a teenager. Kinda freaked me out. We don't do that kind of stuff here. It's not in vogue, never was.
😀
Not here in England either. I guess we sing "God save the queen" to fool UEFA into thinking we're a nation. It sounds like a funeral march, and saving the queen is a daft objective for a soccer match.
The German anthem is heroic. Spain could lose before they begin, except for the fact that the crowd, and the whole of Europe, will be cheering for them if they play Germany in the final.
In english churches the music of the german anthem (written by Haydn) is known as the hymn 'Glorious Things Of Thee Are Spoken' btw.
😀(snip) except for the fact that...(snip)...the whole of Europe, will be cheering for them if they play Germany in the final.

Spain and Portugal have been much more conservative in their approaches, so from a spectators standpoint less engaging.
My relatives in Eastern Europe are rooting for anyone other than Spain fearing that the latest iteration of Spanish football might become a more widespread tactical template adopted by other countries.
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