I have to wonder what the availability of endless entertainment has done to the Human race. By endless entertainment, I mean the infinite whole of on-line / computer driven available ways to occupy ones time; videos, games, social media. Having grown up during an era when these things simply did not exist, I can see the change in people of today. My baseline example is you used to be able to say "hello" to someone, but these days they're wholly occupied with some device. Used to be they'd be interested in talking with you, half the reason being they're bored; there's actually nothing else to do.
Now, let's conceptually add AGI into the mix. AGI being AI based general machine intelligence. So now you have available a literal conversational partner, whose intellect and knowledge easily surpasses 99.9% of all real persons you could talk to. Why would anyone bother to talk with a real person anymore? Whatever time is left over from the games, movies and posts, you can real time chat on into the night with an intelligence no Human could hope to equal. In contrast, an ordinary human being would seem "as dumb as a post".
My guess, when this comes on line in a matter of time, is that in the limit, interpersonal human interaction will become even more damaged than it is already. I only hope to God that this does not follow the trajectory of the internet, which was supposed to be this and instead became that. I sincerely hope the monetization at all and any cost does not prevail with AIG, for that will be the downfall of Mankind.
Imagine an AI that's trained to keep you engaged, then try its best intellectual approach to sell you something. And everyone of them is that way. The analogy of a Cee eN eN story page; text driveling on and on, page after page, never quite getting to the point of the article title, with all these flashing, moving adverts sprinkled about on the left, right and even in between the verbiage. Me? I closed that page, no longer caring to know. Good Luck, humanity.
What do you think?
Now, let's conceptually add AGI into the mix. AGI being AI based general machine intelligence. So now you have available a literal conversational partner, whose intellect and knowledge easily surpasses 99.9% of all real persons you could talk to. Why would anyone bother to talk with a real person anymore? Whatever time is left over from the games, movies and posts, you can real time chat on into the night with an intelligence no Human could hope to equal. In contrast, an ordinary human being would seem "as dumb as a post".
My guess, when this comes on line in a matter of time, is that in the limit, interpersonal human interaction will become even more damaged than it is already. I only hope to God that this does not follow the trajectory of the internet, which was supposed to be this and instead became that. I sincerely hope the monetization at all and any cost does not prevail with AIG, for that will be the downfall of Mankind.
Imagine an AI that's trained to keep you engaged, then try its best intellectual approach to sell you something. And everyone of them is that way. The analogy of a Cee eN eN story page; text driveling on and on, page after page, never quite getting to the point of the article title, with all these flashing, moving adverts sprinkled about on the left, right and even in between the verbiage. Me? I closed that page, no longer caring to know. Good Luck, humanity.
What do you think?
First thing that came to my mind was: If you can count on one thing with Humans, it’s their vanity.
It seems impossible to not encounter someone on a daily basis that has a superiority complex…and not necessarily because they are better or smarter than you.
I wonder how an all knowing AI will fly with them?
It seems impossible to not encounter someone on a daily basis that has a superiority complex…and not necessarily because they are better or smarter than you.
I wonder how an all knowing AI will fly with them?
I think if yer gonna use a new acronym among us olde folkes, then you should prolly spell it out for us at least the one time.
It will. And I say that not even knowing what AIG is.
I stopped at a Starbucks a couple weeks ago. I was taking one of my long daily walks and needed to get a pound of coffee. I don't usually go there but I was completely out and besides I do like some of their overpriced brew.
I selected a pound off the shelf (I had to get a customer to help me because I really can't see what I'm looking at) and stood by the register. I stood there patiently for a few minutes and noticed that although there were 4 or 5 employees, who were all totally engrossed in their cell phones, nobody seemed to notice me. Maybe they think I'm completely blind but I can see them standing there glued to their phones.
Finally, an older (than me) employee came out from the back and apologize for the wait. She promptly rang me up and I thanked her.
There has been a fundamental shift in society. I don't know what happened or when (maybe it's me) but I'm just going with the flow. And I still get pleasure out of a basic please-and-thank-you type encounter. I know that's gone too.
@Fast Eddie D "4 or 5 employees, who were all totally engrossed in their cell phones, nobody seemed to notice me."
Typical zombies of today's society.
I hate them, they disgust me.
They have no idea of how damn stupid they look to us un-addicted people.
I had a 'young' person stop by one day to discuss a sale of some audio equipment that is on my craigs list ad.
This... kid.....spotted the alarm system keypad hear my front door, and asked me what it was.
I told him, and he said "how weird!"
I asked him why...
He said that his alarm system is set through his cellphone.
I said "so?"
He then said it was more convenient and quicker to arm/disarm.
I told him that pressing 5 little buttons on my keypad is just as quick, if not quicker than having to bring up an app, and then fish though menus, finally arming his system.
He gave me a black stare - what a dumb @-ss
Typical zombies of today's society.
I hate them, they disgust me.
They have no idea of how damn stupid they look to us un-addicted people.
I had a 'young' person stop by one day to discuss a sale of some audio equipment that is on my craigs list ad.
This... kid.....spotted the alarm system keypad hear my front door, and asked me what it was.
I told him, and he said "how weird!"
I asked him why...
He said that his alarm system is set through his cellphone.
I said "so?"
He then said it was more convenient and quicker to arm/disarm.
I told him that pressing 5 little buttons on my keypad is just as quick, if not quicker than having to bring up an app, and then fish though menus, finally arming his system.
He gave me a black stare - what a dumb @-ss
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So what I'm suggesting is far, far worse than "there's always something available on-line to take your attention away from the 'here and now' of reality" - like someone standing there waiting for you to do your job. What it is, is infinitely better than any of it so far. It's an Artificial Intelligence that will be endlessly entertaining, compared to what a real person could be. I'm thinking;
And it does it, stunningly well, better than almost any real life person one could possibly engage. The only limitation it has is you have to properly engineer your query for the best response you can get. What is that going to do to the interpersonal fabric of human society - the basic "please and thank-you" encounter, when everyone appears as a dumb-*ss, relative to this machine, that's now in your pocket?
- Draw me a picture of an egg shaped speaker cabinet with two drivers. Make a flat surface on the top.
- I'd like to talk with Frank Zappa tonight, you be FZ...
- Jam with me in real time on this song, key of G, 132 BPM - let's rock!
- I'm feeling argumentative, let's debate the events of January 6th; you take a "proud boy" perspective.
- Compose an erotic poem, based on the theme "My Next Door Neighbor Spoils Me Rotten".
- Compose symphonic music for that, as the song lyrics...
And it does it, stunningly well, better than almost any real life person one could possibly engage. The only limitation it has is you have to properly engineer your query for the best response you can get. What is that going to do to the interpersonal fabric of human society - the basic "please and thank-you" encounter, when everyone appears as a dumb-*ss, relative to this machine, that's now in your pocket?
The alienation of individuals in society is what's been happening, and apparently increasing.
People are 'led' to believe all sorts of things, true or not, they often take things for face value.
Things like those Alexa devices in homes are part of the laziness of humans.
I won't get into politics, or even the herd mentality stuff, which promotes even more alienation of people.
People got along much better decades ago, I should know, I grew up way before all this technology came along.
Isn't that ironic?
People didn't mind having to get up off the sofa to change tv channels.
Along comes the remote control, and it fostered hoardes of lazy couch rats.
A 'labor saving' device?... jeeze, even that got replaced.
Lord knows it's too much trouble to tap a few tiny buttons on the remote... now you can just talk to it, like that Alexa crap device.
People are 'led' to believe all sorts of things, true or not, they often take things for face value.
Things like those Alexa devices in homes are part of the laziness of humans.
I won't get into politics, or even the herd mentality stuff, which promotes even more alienation of people.
People got along much better decades ago, I should know, I grew up way before all this technology came along.
Isn't that ironic?
People didn't mind having to get up off the sofa to change tv channels.
Along comes the remote control, and it fostered hoardes of lazy couch rats.
A 'labor saving' device?... jeeze, even that got replaced.
Lord knows it's too much trouble to tap a few tiny buttons on the remote... now you can just talk to it, like that Alexa crap device.
My uncle on my father's side was impressive to me as a kid. He had a Zenith TV, with the mechanical remote having the two chimes inside. Remember those? No batteries needed... Push the button; "clink" - then the tuner went ka-chunk-ka-chunk-ka-chunk until it landed on the next broadcast. I assume one button was up, the other down, so you wouldnt have to wait for it to chunk its way around 11 positions, to get to the channel 2 steps below.
He also had his land-line telephone arranged so that when the receiver was picked up, the volume of that TV would turn down. Mid 1960s magic - no one else I knew of had that level of TV automation at the time!
Well, there was a time when people didnt mind extending themselves to talk with another human being. Boredom was an ordinary, common part of life. With everyone's attention on something existing in an imaginary world, soon to be better in every way than the actual one and the people in it - what is that going to do?
It didnt like the word erotic, so I eliminated it from the query. This is today at the level that's 1 generation behind the best, which you have to pay for to get access;
"My next door neighbor, kind and sweet
Brings me treats, oh such a treat!
A basket full of apples and pears
A loaf of bread, so warm and fresh it tears
She spoils me rotten, with her generosity
And her smile, oh it fills me with ecstasy
I love the way she greets me each day
It brightens my mood, it chases my worries away
Sometimes she drops by for a chat
We share our stories, we laugh and we pat
Her soothing voice, her gentle touch
I feel so lucky, I feel so much
My next door neighbor, she's a treasure
Her kindness, her grace, they bring me pleasure
Spoiled rotten, yes, but what a joy
To have her nearby, my heart she does employ"
Know anyone that could pull this off in under a minute? The Chat GPT AI probably took milliseconds...
"My next door neighbor, kind and sweet
Brings me treats, oh such a treat!
A basket full of apples and pears
A loaf of bread, so warm and fresh it tears
She spoils me rotten, with her generosity
And her smile, oh it fills me with ecstasy
I love the way she greets me each day
It brightens my mood, it chases my worries away
Sometimes she drops by for a chat
We share our stories, we laugh and we pat
Her soothing voice, her gentle touch
I feel so lucky, I feel so much
My next door neighbor, she's a treasure
Her kindness, her grace, they bring me pleasure
Spoiled rotten, yes, but what a joy
To have her nearby, my heart she does employ"
Know anyone that could pull this off in under a minute? The Chat GPT AI probably took milliseconds...