coming from the car audio world - you could run 5kw sub on normal + and - wires, although thicker ones like 4-10mm or so 😀
alright then, but the outputs from the amps, aren't they XLR connections?
alright then, but the outputs from the amps, aren't they XLR connections?
Which amps are you using? Any PA amp is gonna have speakon outputs, some have an additional set of screw-on wire terminals too.
i have no amp yet, but i am looking at 2 used skytec pro 1000 right now though, i could use one for my subs, 1000wrms bridged 8 ohm. and one for my tops, 2*500wrms in 4 ohms. i should probably get something with slightly more power though, my subs are rated 1200wrms
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I get you're on a budget but skytec is about the cheapest crap you can buy and none of them do rated power. Running 4 subs and 4 tops at high volume all day you really want something a bit higher quality. Thomann TSA 4-700 could be an option, CH 1+2 with two subs each in parallel and CH 3+4 with two tops each in parallel. Probably not a lot of headroom left over on the amp but the built in limiter on the TSA is fairly decent. Also make sure to set limiters on the DSP.
i found a used tsa 4-700 and offered to buy it, but the seller wants to sell all his stuff as a package. it's on the other side of the country, otherwise i might have bought all of it and replaced his subs
got a new idea:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...SFSoO9xWJ3Spe8UkBM_aem_JPBMXSAsICXY-lXdta9MSA
https://en.toutlehautparleur.com/fu...ylagwC4JTrZaHhwRV4_aem_Zs_vX8fVqosqlA1-nxScfg
gettting a whooping 64 of these and put them in pilllars with 16 in each! that way i dont have to deal with a compression driver or crossover! although that is quite a lot of money... BUT, the sound quality would be way better i assume
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...SFSoO9xWJ3Spe8UkBM_aem_JPBMXSAsICXY-lXdta9MSA
https://en.toutlehautparleur.com/fu...ylagwC4JTrZaHhwRV4_aem_Zs_vX8fVqosqlA1-nxScfg
gettting a whooping 64 of these and put them in pilllars with 16 in each! that way i dont have to deal with a compression driver or crossover! although that is quite a lot of money... BUT, the sound quality would be way better i assume
Not... unless you like the sound of Bose.. no highs and no lows.BUT, the sound quality would be way better i assume
Dangit!
What about 32/64 of these? https://www.brl.se/sv/artiklar/madpm164.html
Very cheap. 10-13 euros/piece in bulk
What about 32/64 of these? https://www.brl.se/sv/artiklar/madpm164.html
Very cheap. 10-13 euros/piece in bulk
Have you moved away from the 12” and tweeters now? I struggle to follow. Im sure you only need to replace that one 12 with the other and then you have great tops. It will probably reach close to 120dB with a true 300 watt amp and highpassed.
Just bringing more options to the table
2x12” is not going to be enough, end of story. I am basically competing against these guys:
Huge setups. 2x12” ain’t cutting it. 4x12” is okay, but by no means is it impressive. It’s all about showing off
2x12” is not going to be enough, end of story. I am basically competing against these guys:
Huge setups. 2x12” ain’t cutting it. 4x12” is okay, but by no means is it impressive. It’s all about showing off
So show off with four 4x12” dummy cabinets...Huge setups. 2x12” ain’t cutting it. 4x12” is okay, but by no means is it impressive. It’s all about showing off
The math if interested in controlling directivity:It may be counter intuitive but the wider you make a cluster of driver the narrower the coverage, the ideal driver stack is a single tall line but that type of speaker system is not always the best solution.
Horn mouth/baffle polar frequency: c = 10^6/(a*b)
a = wall angle in deg
b = mouth width (or height) in inches
c = -6 dB frequency
metric = (2.54*10^6)/(a*b) in cm
a new idea was brought to my mind
fullrange 12" drivers! no tweeters or XO needed!
https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=FANSOV12-250TC
any thoughts about this one? seems like it has good efficiency and can take 250wrms
or, i could build TWO 4*12" with these: https://www.thomann.de/se/the_box_speaker_122808a.htm
efficiency is on the lower side, but with 8 of them it would be great. and they are cheap + it would look extreme. i could slap a single 2" driver on top of them, that should be enough
fullrange 12" drivers! no tweeters or XO needed!
https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=FANSOV12-250TC
any thoughts about this one? seems like it has good efficiency and can take 250wrms
or, i could build TWO 4*12" with these: https://www.thomann.de/se/the_box_speaker_122808a.htm
efficiency is on the lower side, but with 8 of them it would be great. and they are cheap + it would look extreme. i could slap a single 2" driver on top of them, that should be enough
samp,
well, that's not too bad!
they are about the same price as if i would build these: https://www.lautsprecherforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=5463
what would be the better value?
there is also a slightly more expensive version here: https://www.lautsprecherforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=5738
well, that's not too bad!
they are about the same price as if i would build these: https://www.lautsprecherforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=5463
what would be the better value?
there is also a slightly more expensive version here: https://www.lautsprecherforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=5738
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If you are a good builder and follow the plans exactly with the correct parts then the DIY kit will likely be the better speaker.
The Behringer does have some good things going for it. It's already done and ready to go, has speakon connections, mounting points, handles, and a warranty. Plus the cab is built to take some abuse and be weather resistant. And it might keep some resale value.
Normally I would not recommend the Behringer to this crowd due to the less than great response, but in your case, cheap and loud is exactly what the Behringer is good at.
I would focus your energy on building the subs. Bass is usually what impresses people.
The Behringer does have some good things going for it. It's already done and ready to go, has speakon connections, mounting points, handles, and a warranty. Plus the cab is built to take some abuse and be weather resistant. And it might keep some resale value.
Normally I would not recommend the Behringer to this crowd due to the less than great response, but in your case, cheap and loud is exactly what the Behringer is good at.
I would focus your energy on building the subs. Bass is usually what impresses people.
btw i just got this amp for my subs on the used market: https://www.thomann.de/se/t-amp_ta2400.htm
yes, the resale would probably be better on something 'off the shelf'. maybe i can find some tops on the used market
i'm just thinking. let's say i go for 4 behringer tops. that's 600 euro.
for that price i could get almost 8 of these: https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=FANSOV12-250TC
i also got a quote on these, 32 of them for 350 euro!: https://www.brl.se/sv/artiklar/madpm164.html
honestly, i think 32*6.5" would be loudest, don't you think?
yes, the resale would probably be better on something 'off the shelf'. maybe i can find some tops on the used market
i'm just thinking. let's say i go for 4 behringer tops. that's 600 euro.
for that price i could get almost 8 of these: https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=FANSOV12-250TC
i also got a quote on these, 32 of them for 350 euro!: https://www.brl.se/sv/artiklar/madpm164.html
honestly, i think 32*6.5" would be loudest, don't you think?
32 of the orange driver would be the loudest and probably have the look you're after. The concern would be how long they can survive playing at max spl on a hot day. Running them all full range will have some bad sound problems but if you just want super loud at the expense of everything else, then it should accomplish that.
32 of them are rated at 1920Wrms. i will probably not be able to give them that much... so i don't think that would be a problem
i have no frequency curve on them - neither does the store. i'm thinking i need that 2" driver too...
i have no frequency curve on them - neither does the store. i'm thinking i need that 2" driver too...
look what i found:
from a russian guy on youtube that measured the orange speaker. i assume purple and blue are 30/60 degrees off axis?
here is the video:
here is the measurement of the slightly more expensive 8" version:
from a russian guy on youtube that measured the orange speaker. i assume purple and blue are 30/60 degrees off axis?
here is the video:
here is the measurement of the slightly more expensive 8" version:
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