easy to find mechanical decoupling systems _ kind request for technical advice

The bass from old british speakers seems a little slow and rounded A litttle muddy

Sign of a poorly aligned reflex or BBC style box walls that don’t really do the job.

i listened to the 105 1st series and liked them a lot

i sold the KEF 105s, i thot them kinda constiopated, B&W 801 was better.

dave
 
Why? Emissions from push-push and front-firing are both omnidirectional and as long as youdon’t put anything too close to the woofer, essentially the same below say 300 hz.
dave
Good morning and thank you again I have a difficult situation as i have to place the speakers in corners
and as the room is not that big i have to place them quite close to the side and back walls I am sure this will increase the bass response
i will have to check Maybe i will even need a equalizer
unfortunately this is the current situation
 
Sign of a poorly aligned reflex or BBC style box walls that don’t really do the job.
of the most classic britich speakers the only ones that i realyi liked (very much indeed) have been Tannoy and not all The ones with paper cones
i remember a huge pair of grey monitors with a plastic woofer They were impossibile to drive System DMT 12
they were beast at 26kg each But the woofer sounded sluggish I guess they are current hungry ?
i sold the KEF 105s, i thot them kinda constiopated, B&W 801 was better.
thank you I like the concept I do not know the drivers They say that they shine with classical music
soundstage should be very well developed in the 3d
When i see a tall speaker i immediately think to cut it in the middle and make it in two pieces
i must have a Robespierre attitude Decoupling the head from the body

They can largly immune to diffraction.
dave
you mean the 105 and 801 ? if so very good indeed
i can guess that diffractions can be bad for FR and also for soundstage reproduction
however i dont think that two cabinets are really needed for mid and tweeter They can share the same enclosure

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About materials for building a cabinet...

May be of interest.
www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/paperstone-anyone.423025
Good morning and thank you very much for the very interesting link
maybe in the end a thick and heavy solid wood and a certain bracing could be the most straightforward answer
a structure like the Matrix by b&w as far as rigidity is concerned
the bass bins show a good behaviour (i still do not understand why they not place the accelerometers on the front baffle)
https://www.stereophile.com/content/bw-matrix-801-series-2-loudspeaker-measurements

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with sufficient rigidity and mass
above all a wood that remains structurally stable over time
it is true that there are fiberboard cabinets from 50 years ago that still work if kept properly
there remains the problem of the equipment to work the wood
when I see the workshops of certain diyers I feel a strong envy and they seem to me to be real industrial contexts
I am sure that a professional would charge a high price even for just two cabinets for the woofers especially if with the bracing to be done
I think even 400-500 USD/each if anything with the material I will ask anyway
I should find some 801s with the woofers broken and even without heads
their bass cabinets should be very good
 
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