Scaling can be misleading. This woofer can be used even in a 2 way, but it's much better in a 3 way 800Hz LR4 or 500Hz LR2 and below. I use 380Hz LR2, fantastic driver.
Have a look at the Beyma Studio 12" (sealed) and the SM112/n. The SM line is quite interesting, their 15" one looks nice.
Thanks for that explanation, denibeni. I will strongly consider using it. 😀 It's nice to hear that a 380 hz Xover point works well. That is the approximate range I would be targeting as well.
Best,
Rich
Best,
Rich
I know you have a ton of suggestions. Looking back at your volume available I realize that it's ideal for the driver I use in my horn system. Run sealed it is just right for your cabinet volume, and I use it up to 500hz, so you should be great up to 300. The only disadvantage is that the driver is not sensitive. You would have to use an active setup with a separate amp for the woofer. I would strongly recommend that you do that anyway to implement room correction and make amp experimenting more flexible. My journey through bass drivers started with a PA woofer with high sensitivity. Not only was there inadequate output in the low bass, but it lacked resolution. It had a "wooly" sound despite eq. Next I tried 2 expensive 10" hifi woofers. Better sound quality but low bass needed supplementation from a subwoofer to be adequate. Finally trying my current subwoofer driver I found that I had extreme output capabilities in the lowest octaves plus much to my surprise, the higher frequencies sounded much cleaner than any of the other drivers. The driver is the Dayton 12" HF subwoofer.
Hi cspieker,
Once again thanks for your input and suggestion. I will look at the Dayton 12" subwoofer.
Best,
Rich
Once again thanks for your input and suggestion. I will look at the Dayton 12" subwoofer.
Best,
Rich
There is one driver option suited well for a closed box, ESS 689-1220, selling at Simply Speakers for $139. Good for 50W of input power at 6mm Xmax. F3/F6/F10=42/34/27 Hz in a 65 litres enclosure.
Another well suited woofer for a vented box, Volt RV3143.
Another well suited woofer for a vented box, Volt RV3143.
Thanks Lojzek,
I will take a look at those two suggestion. Getting lots of suggestions for both sealed and ported. I certainly like the idea of keeping the woofer cost around $150.00 or less thus keeping in line with what I spent on the B&C 6NDL38 mid range. Although, I had not stated as such; this was intended to be more of a lower cost budget project. My current project is more of a high dollar build (at least for me) using Satori drivers in a Thiel inspired 3 way floormount.🙂 But that said, I had not really thrown out any potential 12" woofers unless they are over say $300.00.
Best,
Rich
I will take a look at those two suggestion. Getting lots of suggestions for both sealed and ported. I certainly like the idea of keeping the woofer cost around $150.00 or less thus keeping in line with what I spent on the B&C 6NDL38 mid range. Although, I had not stated as such; this was intended to be more of a lower cost budget project. My current project is more of a high dollar build (at least for me) using Satori drivers in a Thiel inspired 3 way floormount.🙂 But that said, I had not really thrown out any potential 12" woofers unless they are over say $300.00.
Best,
Rich
The JBL 2203 are unobtanium.
And the cone kits are discontimued years ago,
so making one from a blown 2202 or 2204 are not an viable option.
They can be found if one knows how to look. Twist my arm😉
Why this driver hasn't been reverse engineered and copied is a wonder.
2202/04 are not rare btw.
That Volt is a lovely driver, I've got a pair in T/Ls but they cost £425 each these days.
Have you looked at the 4012ULF? I used a pair in 4ft^3, and had an F3 of 28Hz in the model. These are great woofers!
Eminence Definimax 4012ULF-8 12" Cast Frame Driver
Otherwise- I agree the 3012LF is great, and even the 4 ohm model is a wonder.
And the Peerless SDF250 10" is perfect for the volume you have selected.
Peerless by Tymphany SDF-250F75PR01-06 10" Paper Cone Subwoofer
Later,
Wolf
Eminence Definimax 4012ULF-8 12" Cast Frame Driver
Otherwise- I agree the 3012LF is great, and even the 4 ohm model is a wonder.
And the Peerless SDF250 10" is perfect for the volume you have selected.
Peerless by Tymphany SDF-250F75PR01-06 10" Paper Cone Subwoofer
Later,
Wolf
Just in this days i simulated a lot of 12 inch drivers for using them in a compact 3-way-loudspeaker. At the moment one of my favorites is the beyma 12LX60v2. Maybe, that this is similar to that, what you're looking for.
Greetings,
Michael
Greetings,
Michael
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