I am using Deft lacquer but after more than a month, there is still some smell which is not very pleasant.
Are there other brands of lacquer that does not smell as much?
Are there other brands of lacquer that does not smell as much?
Are you kidding? Laquer smells great!
Water based or 2-part finishes tend to smell less.
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Water based or 2-part finishes tend to smell less.
www.pianolac.com
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Andy2,
The smell should be gone by now. I use Deft laquer all the time and haven't noticed any smell after a couple of weeks.
What did you use, gloss, semi or satin???
Also, how many coats did you apply???
Not that this makes any difference.... or does it???
-Ken
The smell should be gone by now. I use Deft laquer all the time and haven't noticed any smell after a couple of weeks.
What did you use, gloss, semi or satin???
Also, how many coats did you apply???
Not that this makes any difference.... or does it???
-Ken
The more coats you put on... and the faster you put them on... the more solvent you will trap.
Put them in the sun... get em hot... that will speed the volatiles away.
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Put them in the sun... get em hot... that will speed the volatiles away.
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I must have put on about 7 or 8 coats at about 1hr interval.
As for polishing, i used Minwax stuffs .. don't remember the name ..
The smell gone away somewhat but still lingering especially in a small room I have. The weather has been hot and humid around here so I really notice the smell coming home from work.
Here are a few pics. I couldn't get the finish as smooth as I can since I was using brush. The spay-on would have helped but probably cost more.
The veneer is called "wormy maple" I bought from ebay for cheap which looks sort of cool but probably will have pretty low waf score.
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/?action=view¤t=Both.jpg
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/?action=view¤t=Right.jpg
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/?action=view¤t=Rear.jpg
As for polishing, i used Minwax stuffs .. don't remember the name ..
The smell gone away somewhat but still lingering especially in a small room I have. The weather has been hot and humid around here so I really notice the smell coming home from work.
Here are a few pics. I couldn't get the finish as smooth as I can since I was using brush. The spay-on would have helped but probably cost more.
The veneer is called "wormy maple" I bought from ebay for cheap which looks sort of cool but probably will have pretty low waf score.
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/?action=view¤t=Both.jpg
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/?action=view¤t=Right.jpg
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/?action=view¤t=Rear.jpg
Look good dude,
Get em hot... humidity doesn't help either.
Next time put on 6 coats and let dry for weeks... wet sand with 400... and follow with one fianl coat. Be sure to use a real hair brush (high $). Or, do the last coat with a spray can of the same material.
You can also smooth 'em up with fine steel wool if you want a satin finish.
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Get em hot... humidity doesn't help either.
Next time put on 6 coats and let dry for weeks... wet sand with 400... and follow with one fianl coat. Be sure to use a real hair brush (high $). Or, do the last coat with a spray can of the same material.
You can also smooth 'em up with fine steel wool if you want a satin finish.
😉
Forget the WAF.
If a spouse is going to get involved with your speaker building, they should do so with a cold beer and a tasty sandwich.
If a spouse is going to get involved with your speaker building, they should do so with a cold beer and a tasty sandwich.
Hi andy2,
Poobahs advice is good. I will add some experience of my own.
The biggest improvement in my lacquering projects came when I started leaving 1 day between coats and then 10 days before leveling and polishing the finish.. Far fewer runs, faster final cure, overall tougher finish and lots less lingering smell.
Six coats is a good overall number. With more than that the finish gets too thick and the danger of runs goes up. Thick lacquer finishes also have a greater tendency to crack and craze over time. "Opening up" the finish after 3 coats with a light sanding 400 grit will also speed up out-gassing.
The best book on lacquer finishing is the one on guitar finishes by Erlewine and McCrostie from www.stewmac.com. Hands down. Indispensible.
Final point - I don't use Deft lacquer anymore. I switched to Watco nitrocellulose lacquer with far better results. It dries harder and polishes out way better. Unfortunately, I have heard that Deft bought them a while ago so I'm looking for another easily available nitrocellulose lacquer.
Cheers,
Graeme
Poobahs advice is good. I will add some experience of my own.
The biggest improvement in my lacquering projects came when I started leaving 1 day between coats and then 10 days before leveling and polishing the finish.. Far fewer runs, faster final cure, overall tougher finish and lots less lingering smell.
Six coats is a good overall number. With more than that the finish gets too thick and the danger of runs goes up. Thick lacquer finishes also have a greater tendency to crack and craze over time. "Opening up" the finish after 3 coats with a light sanding 400 grit will also speed up out-gassing.
The best book on lacquer finishing is the one on guitar finishes by Erlewine and McCrostie from www.stewmac.com. Hands down. Indispensible.
Final point - I don't use Deft lacquer anymore. I switched to Watco nitrocellulose lacquer with far better results. It dries harder and polishes out way better. Unfortunately, I have heard that Deft bought them a while ago so I'm looking for another easily available nitrocellulose lacquer.
Cheers,
Graeme
All is not too late I guess. Once I have sometimes in the future, I can resand them with grit 400 then spray the final layer.
Alright... now here's the real tricks.
Before you sand, take some black laquer spray paint, stand about 4 feet away, and spray a light mist over the entire surface and let dry for day. You should have basically the same look with billion or so black dots.
Now, when you wet sand use room temp water with just drop of dish soap. Use a sanding pad (not a block) and sand evenly until the dots are almost gone and stop... switch to 600... sand until the dots are completely gone and STOP... DONE.
Wipe with alcohol... 2 towels... one to wet... one to dry.
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Before you sand, take some black laquer spray paint, stand about 4 feet away, and spray a light mist over the entire surface and let dry for day. You should have basically the same look with billion or so black dots.
Now, when you wet sand use room temp water with just drop of dish soap. Use a sanding pad (not a block) and sand evenly until the dots are almost gone and stop... switch to 600... sand until the dots are completely gone and STOP... DONE.
Wipe with alcohol... 2 towels... one to wet... one to dry.
🙂
poobah said:
What's the purpose of spraying with black lacquer? Is it merely used as a kind of meter to measure how much one should sand?
Or is it more of a catalyst for the final coat? I am not Einstein 🙂.
Sanding is like drinking or pinching girls at work. The trick lies in knowing when to quit.
This method, known as a guide coat, gives you quick visual way of telling when you have sanded just enough to make things smooth. It is very difficult to see what you're doing when the surface is wet and covered with sanding slurry.
You can wipe, sand, wipe, sand, all day long. Using a guide coat you can haul ***. And, you won't remove one bit more than neccesary. Accidentally sanding through a clear finish on anything really sucks... no matter what you do, it will always show.
BTW... this method isn't whacko... just secret pro stuff.
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This method, known as a guide coat, gives you quick visual way of telling when you have sanded just enough to make things smooth. It is very difficult to see what you're doing when the surface is wet and covered with sanding slurry.
You can wipe, sand, wipe, sand, all day long. Using a guide coat you can haul ***. And, you won't remove one bit more than neccesary. Accidentally sanding through a clear finish on anything really sucks... no matter what you do, it will always show.
BTW... this method isn't whacko... just secret pro stuff.
🙂
No I found the current EBU (Estrogen Based Unit) on Yahoo personals.
Her ad was an eclectic collection of cryptic references that only a troo poo could decode. SY would have fallen for it as well I bet.
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Her ad was an eclectic collection of cryptic references that only a troo poo could decode. SY would have fallen for it as well I bet.
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poobah said:
Deft will dry too fast in the sun -- it is one of my favorite satin finishes.
You can always get a mask for volatile organics at Sears.
Hey Jack,
His speakers are well dry already... we're just talking about post cure here... they're stinking up his room.
Hey Joe,
Yeah but she expects me to use them! Now who's the tool?
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His speakers are well dry already... we're just talking about post cure here... they're stinking up his room.
Hey Joe,
Yeah but she expects me to use them! Now who's the tool?
🙄
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