If someone wants to build high quality speakers they will be very different from simple box with straight angles. Not everyone can fabricate curve shaped plywood for instance. Same can be said about sandwiched composite panels. Both are common when you want to play at the same level with $10K or above commercial speakers.Not all speaker enclosures are basic boxes - Lowther TP1, anyone?
My main problem with DIY speakers, is building the required cabinets.
My....er....'woodworking skills' are the equivalent of a Beaver on PCP??
They mostly sound fine, but...................................................
Steve
HaHa... I can relate..
I've built some butt ugly units but they sound good to me. That's what it's all about, isn't it?
Only my opinion, but most hi-end speakers are marketing BS.
I'm sick of the sight of curvy cabinets with rows of drivers, pumping out boom tish boom tish.
They were a novelty and something genuinely different, when Sonus Faber first started piling hand sawn curvy hardwood slices on top of each other in the 1990s.
Now they are all at it and frankly it is getting boring.
I'm sick of the sight of curvy cabinets with rows of drivers, pumping out boom tish boom tish.
They were a novelty and something genuinely different, when Sonus Faber first started piling hand sawn curvy hardwood slices on top of each other in the 1990s.
Now they are all at it and frankly it is getting boring.
I can't say straight forward rectangular boxes have that much appeal to me . I believe in form follows function above all. If that includes round shapes so be it...
If that is the case in the high end market is questionable at best. But that does not make me dislike round shapes in general. Just my opinion though .
If that is the case in the high end market is questionable at best. But that does not make me dislike round shapes in general. Just my opinion though .
Well yes, but your own line sources are a classic, form follows function setup and have been designed from the ground up, to realise a specific objective. They are not another "me too" product, that is the shape it is, just because everyone else is doing it.
I'm no fan of rectangular boxes either
I'm no fan of rectangular boxes either
Is a good kitchen cabinet builder a good option or any one who works with wood and has proper tools?
It can be as some cabinet makers have CNC machines and can do flat packs if you supply the plans.
Nobody, I was talking purely from an aesthetic point of view.
As an enthusiast who has to share the hi-fi with a partner and family, having no listening room, I think that aesthetics are the number one barrier to family acceptance of good sound in a shared living space.
As an enthusiast who has to share the hi-fi with a partner and family, having no listening room, I think that aesthetics are the number one barrier to family acceptance of good sound in a shared living space.
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One thing that I was surprised to see was that the entry level B&W's were 3 way slender cabinet floor standing perfectly rectangular prismatic shapes. $3k a pair. My speakers definitely sound better than those units
Sure those were B&W speakers? The description sounds like the Sonus Faber Venere.
He probably talks about CM10 model - made in China. When we talk about B&W - assume 8xx models.Sure those were B&W speakers? The description sounds like the Sonus Faber Venere.
Only my opinion, but most hi-end speakers are marketing BS.
I'm sick of the sight of curvy cabinets with rows of drivers, pumping out boom tish boom tish.
They were a novelty and something genuinely different, when Sonus Faber first started piling hand sawn curvy hardwood slices on top of each other in the 1990s.
Now they are all at it and frankly it is getting boring.
Well said, and I agree completely.
I really don't care for gratuitously over-designed speakers, or anything else for that matter. The sole purpose is to appear functional and scientific to the uninformed, and thus help justify the high price.
If someone wants to build high quality speakers they will be very different from simple box with straight angles. Not everyone can fabricate curve shaped plywood for instance. Same can be said about sandwiched composite panels. Both are common when you want to play at the same level with $10K or above commercial speakers.
Fair point, but even curved panels are not particularly difficult if the are only curved along one dimension. The B&W 8xx enclosures appear to be bendy ply glued to formers. That sort of construction does not require any special tooling. The models with teardrop mid enclosures would be a bit more difficult. They are most likely lathe turned, which would cost some money if you had them done in small quantities, i.e. a pair.
I heard the B&W 802 with diamond tweeters and kevlar midrange this weekend. They sounded fine but were lacking in many respects - especially for $15,000!
They are seriously flawed speakers, with regard to linearity as well as directivity control.
Most speaker buyers (non-audiophiles) buy speakers with their eyes not their ears and many speaker manufactures take advantage of this.
This link to a Decware article should be a sticky on top of every speaker forum.
DECWARE - Article on telling the difference between cheep speakers and good ones
This link to a Decware article should be a sticky on top of every speaker forum.
DECWARE - Article on telling the difference between cheep speakers and good ones
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