Greets, have been following several threads for a few days, fantastic place to read and keep up on new things.
I have an audio technica aew-t1000 wireless transmitter and the receiver, but no mic, and i was hoping to find out the wiring for the input so that i can make a cable to plug a shure sm57 into it.
I did find the cable already made:
https://northernsoundandlight.com/B...ceiver_and_Transmitter_Accessories/_XLRW.html
But was hoping to make one myself- it's going to be for some brutal shooting and likely won't survive the experience, so a diy cable would be better.
These transmitters have been amazing! The lapel mic's we used to have for them got stolen a few weeks ago, but they have been flawless! We had been hoping to get a few of the wireless handhelds at some point, but they'll likely be toast after this project so maybe a bit later..
Thanks!🙂
I have an audio technica aew-t1000 wireless transmitter and the receiver, but no mic, and i was hoping to find out the wiring for the input so that i can make a cable to plug a shure sm57 into it.
I did find the cable already made:
https://northernsoundandlight.com/B...ceiver_and_Transmitter_Accessories/_XLRW.html
But was hoping to make one myself- it's going to be for some brutal shooting and likely won't survive the experience, so a diy cable would be better.
These transmitters have been amazing! The lapel mic's we used to have for them got stolen a few weeks ago, but they have been flawless! We had been hoping to get a few of the wireless handhelds at some point, but they'll likely be toast after this project so maybe a bit later..
Thanks!🙂
You know, looking at the commercial cable for $16, I wonder just how much you expect to save building them, even assuming your labor has no value. I always found those fancy little connectors on the belt back end are a pain in the butt to wire up.
The XLR connector is about $3, and the little four pin HRS connectors are not cheap. And then a roll of the cable... I think I'd just buy them ready made and use my time elsewhere.
If I get to the shop, however, I will look and see if I still have a few of those conectors in stock, I'd let them go for cheap as I have closed the shop.
If you contact A-T they should send you the wiring of the belt pack connector. We used to do a lot of wireless work, and I have somewhere a whole file of various connections and schematics.
Unless this is sufficient:
Audio-Technica - Support - Questions
The XLR connector is about $3, and the little four pin HRS connectors are not cheap. And then a roll of the cable... I think I'd just buy them ready made and use my time elsewhere.
If I get to the shop, however, I will look and see if I still have a few of those conectors in stock, I'd let them go for cheap as I have closed the shop.
If you contact A-T they should send you the wiring of the belt pack connector. We used to do a lot of wireless work, and I have somewhere a whole file of various connections and schematics.
Unless this is sufficient:
Audio-Technica - Support - Questions
Thanks for the info. Yes, i have a few xlr connectors and some wiring, so it's just a matter of finding reasonably inexpensive HRS connectors and how to wire it. I'll send a note to them, i just assumed it wasn't info they'd easily part with.
That's a great point too- only $16! I didn't even look, i had found several pages with prices of up to around $50, i guess i hadn't even looked at that page. diy would be better still since i have most of the parts except the hrs connector, but will bookmark that site for sure.
Yes, if you have any spare hrs connectors let me know, thanks!
Rob T.
That's a great point too- only $16! I didn't even look, i had found several pages with prices of up to around $50, i guess i hadn't even looked at that page. diy would be better still since i have most of the parts except the hrs connector, but will bookmark that site for sure.
Yes, if you have any spare hrs connectors let me know, thanks!
Rob T.
Ahh, thanks for the link for the pinout this is what i needed! It's not quite clear though- the sm57 is a dynamic, so:
To wire a dynamic microphone use:
Pin 1 & 2 Shield Cable
Pin 3 Signal Cable
Pin 4 Not connected
And the belt-pack (hrs) pin layout:
Pin 1 - Ground
Pin 2 – Line or Instrument Input
Pin 3 – Microphone Input
Pin 4 - Bias Voltage
Pins 1&2 ("shield cable") from mic would go to pin 1 on the beltpack, and pin 3 from mic would go to pin 3 on the beltpack?
I'm using this pinout for the xlr connectors:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...edCable.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110130134629
I couldn't find the pinout for the HRS connector yet, does it work the same as xlr, i.e. if you're looking into a female connector, pin 1 is upper right and the pin number go up as you move around counter clockwise, the numbering works the same for hrs?
Thanks again!
To wire a dynamic microphone use:
Pin 1 & 2 Shield Cable
Pin 3 Signal Cable
Pin 4 Not connected
And the belt-pack (hrs) pin layout:
Pin 1 - Ground
Pin 2 – Line or Instrument Input
Pin 3 – Microphone Input
Pin 4 - Bias Voltage
Pins 1&2 ("shield cable") from mic would go to pin 1 on the beltpack, and pin 3 from mic would go to pin 3 on the beltpack?
I'm using this pinout for the xlr connectors:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...edCable.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110130134629
I couldn't find the pinout for the HRS connector yet, does it work the same as xlr, i.e. if you're looking into a female connector, pin 1 is upper right and the pin number go up as you move around counter clockwise, the numbering works the same for hrs?
Thanks again!
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There are quite a few hrs pinouts around but each is worded a bit differently, and i guess hirose cables can have any number of pins and different pin arrangements, so hard to be sure which would be safe to use..
I don't recall the pin number pattern on the HRS, been too many years. Look on the connector with a hand lens, are there numbers molded into the plastic?
If you have XLR cables already, that is fine, but remember that HRS connector is expecting the tiny lavaliere mic cord and maybe not the relatively large cord on the XLR. Look at the photo in the link in your first post, that is a tiny wire.
The four pins on the transmitter are meant to cover most installations. Ground is of course the common. Bias is a DC voltage for electret mics that need a power source. Leave it unconnected for your SM57. The other two pins are just inputs if different sensitivity. The line in is for higher level signals, and the mic in is for low level signals like, well, from mics.
The SM57 is a dynamic mic, yes, but it also has a balanced output. Some dynamics - mostly cheaper ones - are high impedance and unbalanced. So as far as the transmitter is concerned, balanced is not a given. And besides, there is little advantage to a balanced line that only has to go a couple of feet and is not ground referenced.
SO while in the XLR, the balanced mic is usually wired with pins 2 and 3 being signal, and pin 1 is the ground/shield.. To run it unbalanced, we just connect pin 2 or 3 to pin 1, grounding one side of its balanced output. Then the remaining pin is the "hot" and would be wired to the mic input. So yes, you got that right.
The second list you post is the connector on the transmitter, the first list was the connections in the mic cord. The connector pin numbers are the same order in both.
NEVER assume that. Some companies will not help you at all - Nady for example in the wireless field. But many if not most companies are helpful if you ask. The worst that can happen is they say "no". I find a phone call is more reliable than email in many cases. I mean unless they are in Austria or New Zealand and you are here.
If you have XLR cables already, that is fine, but remember that HRS connector is expecting the tiny lavaliere mic cord and maybe not the relatively large cord on the XLR. Look at the photo in the link in your first post, that is a tiny wire.
The four pins on the transmitter are meant to cover most installations. Ground is of course the common. Bias is a DC voltage for electret mics that need a power source. Leave it unconnected for your SM57. The other two pins are just inputs if different sensitivity. The line in is for higher level signals, and the mic in is for low level signals like, well, from mics.
The SM57 is a dynamic mic, yes, but it also has a balanced output. Some dynamics - mostly cheaper ones - are high impedance and unbalanced. So as far as the transmitter is concerned, balanced is not a given. And besides, there is little advantage to a balanced line that only has to go a couple of feet and is not ground referenced.
SO while in the XLR, the balanced mic is usually wired with pins 2 and 3 being signal, and pin 1 is the ground/shield.. To run it unbalanced, we just connect pin 2 or 3 to pin 1, grounding one side of its balanced output. Then the remaining pin is the "hot" and would be wired to the mic input. So yes, you got that right.
The second list you post is the connector on the transmitter, the first list was the connections in the mic cord. The connector pin numbers are the same order in both.
NEVER assume that. Some companies will not help you at all - Nady for example in the wireless field. But many if not most companies are helpful if you ask. The worst that can happen is they say "no". I find a phone call is more reliable than email in many cases. I mean unless they are in Austria or New Zealand and you are here.
Ok, thank you for taking the time. I did come across an old mic that got run over awhile back, it doesn't work any more (i checked🙂 ). I'll cut the cable and solder it to an xlr. It looks like about two feet of undamaged cable, so should work well enough. Luckily i still have solder, shrink tubes and even a heat gun from all of the past troubles i got into, i'll give it a shot this weekend.
I'll keep that in mind too- i think i just got used to the usual workflow- most types of companies, for every bit of effort would like a credit card number first, understandable, to a degree.. Thank you!
I'll keep that in mind too- i think i just got used to the usual workflow- most types of companies, for every bit of effort would like a credit card number first, understandable, to a degree.. Thank you!
I did look, and apparently I have used all my NOS HRS connectors. I doubt you'd need any, but I do still have a few NOS of the little male connector that is on the belt packs.
I thought I had a drawer of wireless mic stuff, and there might be some lapel mic cords in there. If there are, I'll let you know.
I thought I had a drawer of wireless mic stuff, and there might be some lapel mic cords in there. If there are, I'll let you know.
It's fine, thanks for looking though. I managed to cobble together something that will work for now, it's soldered together reasonably well with shrink tubes over the wires etc, it looks almost as if i knew what i was doing. But you're right of course, that took a ridiculous amount of time, if it ever goes bad, i'll just *buy* another..
My first professional experiences were on the road touring with bands, but the very first da on the job in a music store electronics shop, I had to replace one of those connectors on a wireless mic cable. Inside the connector is a brass collar or ring if you will, that gets crimped around the cable. If I recall, a small set screw bears against it. IN any case, you have to crimp it around the cable, but there is very little extra room, so it has to be exactly round, and I struggled with it. I finally got it together, looking good. The senior tech then said to me "I want to see how you charge them an hour and a half labor for putting a new plug on a cable."
I told him I was better than that, really, and I would only charge something reasonable, and eat the commission on the larger amount. But it was a pain.
I told him I was better than that, really, and I would only charge something reasonable, and eat the commission on the larger amount. But it was a pain.
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