DIY phono cable suggestions.

[gurevise]

Guys,
I have old Linn Basik TT. It has DIN style connector at the bottom of the tonearm. I'd like to build a better phono cable between TT and phono stage. I have found a good Cardas DIN and RCA connectors.
I'm not sure about cable to use for this project. I need about 2...3 feet cable.
Can you guys recommend a good phono cable?
I would appreciate comments/suggestions about shielded/no-shielded cable type.

Thanks
Sergey

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

2-3 feet is too long for MCs.

What type of cartridge are you using?

Ciao,😉

 

[gurevise]

I use Shure V15VxMR MM cartridge. It's output is about 3mv.
I would also very appreciate all suggestions/thoughts on cable length.

Thanks
Sergey

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

I would also very appreciate all suggestions/thoughts on cable length.

As short as you can manage practically is about the best advise I can give.

If you can afford it and want sonic fireworks from the humble Shure cart, try silver solid core....They're absolutely stunning combined correctly.

Cheers,😉

 

[gurevise]

Can you be more specific about solid core silver cable type, sources and construction.
I can get some silver cables from www.homegrownaudio.com
They have some UN shielded silver cables.

Sergey

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Can you be more specific about solid core silver cable type, sources and construction.

Your quoted source seems fine to me.

A simple twisted solid core silver wire should be fine.

Cheers, 😉

 

[sreten]

TBH IMO it won't make much difference.

You can vary capacitance at the amplifier inputs quite easily.

Just being honest , I think you are wasting your time / effort.

The standard Linn lead for the LVX is perfectly adequate IMO.

Its much more basic than 'silver' conductors.

🙂 sreten.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Its much more basic than 'silver' conductors.

And you've tried this out, no?

Guess not...

Cheers,😉

 

[sreten]

Hi,

And you've tried this out, no?

Guess not...

Cheers,😉

Of course not in the terms you describe, there are far more
fundamental issues to attend to than exotic connections,
of these alternatives I've tried lots.

I've also tried cable alternatives but not the silver option
you describe. The above is far more important than cables.

I stand by my opinion.

🙂 sreten.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Of course not in the terms you describe, there are far more fundamental issues to attend to than exotic connections,
of these alternatives I've tried lots.

Such as?
And what if we have these fundamentals sorted out already?

Do you still feel I/Cs won't make a difference? Wouldn't silver cable be making a difference?

Yes, get the basics right first, then optimise the potential...

Cheers, 😉

 

[sreten]

Well the Linn Basik turntable isn't exactly the last thing known
to rocket science, by design its intended to be a good turntable
but not remotely a stab at the ultimate.

Playing around with the leads has to be :
Compared to any sound engineering approach to addressing the
limitations of the turntable. If you do this you'll find that there is
not much you can actually do in ultimate performance.

You can do better, if you know what you are doing,

🙂 sreten.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Well the Linn Basik turntable isn't exactly the last thing known

Agreed.

Yet, improving on the I/C between cart and TT is not going to hurt it either.

If anything, it's going to throw up the shortcomings of the Linn casseroles, isn't it?

Not a bad thing and you can still keep the I/C for the next TT upgrade, right?

Right. 😉

 

[sreten]

I'm sorry but I'm not into over engineering and / or ********.

The worlds greatest interconnect should improve any turntable,
but its a facetious argument IMO only defended by the ignorant.

Much better to get a good turntable shelf mounting IMO,
bolt the support to a brick wall IMO, is the upgrade to make.

🙂 sreten.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

The worlds greatest interconnect should improve any turntable,

Pardon me, but, no...it won't improve that TT in any way.
Not if you mean the TT itself that is.

Cheers,😉

 

[sreten]

hi frank,
is quoting only half a sentence fair ?
😉

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

is quoting only half a sentence fair ?

That's a full quote for you...

Don't know, really. I suppose the world is dominated by Micro$ftware?

I could address that if it makes you any more happy....

Point is, I don't do it intentionally .

Cheers,😉

 

[sreten]

Hi,

2-3 feet is too long for MCs.

What type of cartridge are you using?

Ciao,😉

I don't understand this.
Moving Coils will happily drive very long cables due to their
low output impedance (resistance and inductance).

Moving magnets inductance interacts with the cable and amplifier
capacitance so the cable length is limited by its capacitance/metre.
So max length depends on recommended loading, amplifier input
capacitance and the capacitance/meter of the cable.
Low capacitance cables can be longer than high capacitance cables.

🙂 sreten.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Moving Coils will happily drive very long cables due to their low output impedance (resistance and inductance).

Having the MC headamp stage close to the cartridge is an advantage as you avoid cable losses due to series resistance of the cable.

Cheers,😉

 

[sreten]

Hi,
Having the MC headamp stage close to the cartridge is an advantage as you avoid cable losses due to series resistance of the cable.

Cheers,😉

Your having a laugh. What series resistance ?

You must have seen voicecoil wire. How thin it is.
And if you unwind a voicecoil how long it is.

Contact resistance of the connectors dominates.

You can use any cable length you like with a MC.

🙂 sreten.

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

You can use any cable length you like with a MC.

Well, you do what you like.

With the µvoltages coming out of MCs I'd rather not take too many chances so I prefer to do I/V conversion as close to the cartridge as I can.

Cheers,😉