Hello everyone,
I would like to build a pair of active 3-way floorstanding speakers using 2 HYPEX FA253 modules. For design reasons, the circuit I need to follow is approximately that of the attached image.
What would be, in your opinion, the best combination of drivers (brand and model) that I could choose and find in Europe?
The speakers are intended for a home environment of about 60 square meters. Someone has already shown me that a higher price for the driver does not necessarily correspond to better performance.
True, using the HYPEX modules would allow me to choose three different types of drivers, but at least the woofer and midwoofer should belong to the same product family for aesthetic reasons.
Thank you for the time you will dedicate to me.
I would like to build a pair of active 3-way floorstanding speakers using 2 HYPEX FA253 modules. For design reasons, the circuit I need to follow is approximately that of the attached image.
What would be, in your opinion, the best combination of drivers (brand and model) that I could choose and find in Europe?
The speakers are intended for a home environment of about 60 square meters. Someone has already shown me that a higher price for the driver does not necessarily correspond to better performance.
True, using the HYPEX modules would allow me to choose three different types of drivers, but at least the woofer and midwoofer should belong to the same product family for aesthetic reasons.
Thank you for the time you will dedicate to me.
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Depends on what's available and your priorities.
Looking at your proposed speaker, my thinking is that the tweeter to mid x-over is going to be important. My suggestion would be to consider a 5.25" driver similar in performance to the Peerless HDS GFC driver. (It's not available, but I like mine. ) https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/264-1074--tymphany-hds-p830991-spec-sheet.pdf It's very smooth, and I crossed mine passively, with shallow slopes to a nice Morel tweeter at about 2k. This speaker is a sealed 2-way, that is crossed to a sub at 80hz. So, I picture your situation as similar. Your 4 tens can cover 200hz, and lower about the same as my sealed 15" sub. A 5.25" from 200hz and up, should be good for reasonable SPL, and well suited for a 2k x-over. I think the Morel tweeters are excellent. I like shallow x-over slopes, although steeper probably sounds just as good, if done well.
I can play music at 90dB cleanly. You may want more. It's all about compromises. To play louder, you may need a 6.5", but you may need a really stout tweeter too
Looking at your proposed speaker, my thinking is that the tweeter to mid x-over is going to be important. My suggestion would be to consider a 5.25" driver similar in performance to the Peerless HDS GFC driver. (It's not available, but I like mine. ) https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/264-1074--tymphany-hds-p830991-spec-sheet.pdf It's very smooth, and I crossed mine passively, with shallow slopes to a nice Morel tweeter at about 2k. This speaker is a sealed 2-way, that is crossed to a sub at 80hz. So, I picture your situation as similar. Your 4 tens can cover 200hz, and lower about the same as my sealed 15" sub. A 5.25" from 200hz and up, should be good for reasonable SPL, and well suited for a 2k x-over. I think the Morel tweeters are excellent. I like shallow x-over slopes, although steeper probably sounds just as good, if done well.
I can play music at 90dB cleanly. You may want more. It's all about compromises. To play louder, you may need a 6.5", but you may need a really stout tweeter too
Got some dollars to spend visit Purifi many will vouch for their range of drivers as some of the best available, they're working on a new tweeter currently
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PTT10.0X08-NAB-01
"but at least the woofer and midwoofer should belong to the same product family for aesthetic reasons."
Run with that and pick something you like. Kartesian and Scan-Speak are European companies. SB Acoustics is Indonesian but readily available in Europe through TLHP. Those three companies - at a minimum - make attractive driver families. You're not lacking for choice at all in Europe.
You'll probably have a waveguide if you're crossing down to a 6.5" so it might be easy to go with one of the tweeters Augerpro designed and tested waveguides for. Unless your tweeter is a compression driver, then you might want to custom design one with ATH. A smaller diameter mid gives you more flexibility in using a stock tweeter without a waveguide at the expense of LF output from the mid. And you don't have to use a waveguide with a 6.5" or even larger woofer. It's just common to start using waveguides as you midrange gets larger. Once you start using waveguides the visual aesthetic is dominated by that rather than how the company designed their faceplate.
Run with that and pick something you like. Kartesian and Scan-Speak are European companies. SB Acoustics is Indonesian but readily available in Europe through TLHP. Those three companies - at a minimum - make attractive driver families. You're not lacking for choice at all in Europe.
You'll probably have a waveguide if you're crossing down to a 6.5" so it might be easy to go with one of the tweeters Augerpro designed and tested waveguides for. Unless your tweeter is a compression driver, then you might want to custom design one with ATH. A smaller diameter mid gives you more flexibility in using a stock tweeter without a waveguide at the expense of LF output from the mid. And you don't have to use a waveguide with a 6.5" or even larger woofer. It's just common to start using waveguides as you midrange gets larger. Once you start using waveguides the visual aesthetic is dominated by that rather than how the company designed their faceplate.
I've been working on a waveguide project where I would develop high performance waveguides for some popular tweeters, and than share the files for anyone to print or CNC as they are able. The discussion started here: 3D printed waveguides - Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video Discussion Forum for more details. The short summary is starting with the SB26ADC and a 5" waveguide, I varied flare radius, phase shields, depths, etc. I've started to find some best practices (at least with this dome/horn combo) and all future guides will have elliptical mouths, and with and without phase...
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Delivery time: 12 weeks 😱Hai qualche dollaro da spendere, visita Purifi, molti garantiranno che la loro gamma di driver è una delle migliori disponibili, stanno lavorando su un nuovo tweeter al momento
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This is my idea of tweeter installation (currently a SCAN SPEAK model). It is housed in a rather short waveguide and integrated into the front panel, the guide will have the possibility of a small mechanical rotation of a few degrees in the vertical plane."ma almeno il woofer e il midwoofer dovrebbero appartenere alla stessa famiglia di prodotti per ragioni estetiche."
Corri con quello e scegli qualcosa che ti piace. Kartesian e Scan-Speak sono aziende europee. SB Acoustics è indonesiana ma facilmente reperibile in Europa tramite TLHP. Quelle tre aziende, come minimo, sono delle famiglie di conducenti attraenti. Non ti manca affatto la scelta in Europa.
Probabilmente avrai una guida d'onda se stai passando a un 6,5", quindi potrebbe essere facile usare uno dei tweeter per cui Augerpro ha progettato e testato le guide d'onda. A meno che il tuo tweeter non sia un driver a compressione, allora potresti volerne progettare uno personalizzato con ATH. Un mid di diametro più piccolo ti offre maggiore flessibilità nell'uso di un tweeter di serie senza guida d'onda a scapito dell'uscita LF dal mid. E non devi usare una guida d'onda con un woofer da 6,5" o anche più grande. È normale iniziare a usare le guide d'onda man mano che il midrange diventa più grande. Una volta che inizi a usare le guide d'onda, l'estetica visiva è dominata da questo piuttosto che dal modo in cui l'azienda ha progettato il suo frontalino.
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What do you think about the final choice between these two woofers?
Audio Technology 10 C 77 25 10 KAP Woofer
Purifi PTT10.0X04-NAB-01
I'm also considering Hypex NC500 + MiniDSP
Thanks
Audio Technology 10 C 77 25 10 KAP Woofer
Purifi PTT10.0X04-NAB-01
I'm also considering Hypex NC500 + MiniDSP
Thanks
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