dlr said:
And how it measures SPL. It doesn't convert air pressure to analog electrical signal, it counts molecules of air and then calculates SPL digitally. Not anything like any mic we've seen before.
Talking about a revolutionary new state-of-the-art mic is one thing, talking about the mic on the end of your measuring boom is another completely.
Trying to use it to prove what you've been saying about mics is like using an F18 as proof of the performance of your Piper Cub. Or using the Hubble to describe the performance of your Celestron.
It is to nice to see these kinds of breakthrus in tech, as it will let us see further. And that it is so cheap (relatively -- $2k is still beyond most of us).
planet10 said:
I would beware, there is a bit of hubris in that write up. For one the concept of noise "not existing" in this context is meaningless.
Seriously, does nobody realise the microphone thing was a joke?! They're talking about the ear/brain!! 
Simon
Simon
I would also beware, facetiousness abounds in that article. Did you notice the timing of the product release: "Mikrodigi plans to ship at the beginning of April"?
C'mon guys, you can do better than that!
-David
C'mon guys, you can do better than that!
-David
gtforme00 said:
I confess, it's not fair though. 🙂 On my lunch time walk I realized how many atoms in a mole of air...
gtforme00 said:
OK. Let's look at a back electret condenser example. Nothing exotic, not cheap, but we're not talking about price, just whether or not a mic can measure more than our ears can hear.
Here's a Sony, nothing fancy, a better version than the typical Panasonic capsule, though that will do most if not all of what we need. The Panasonic capsules are, I believe, actually more sensitive, but not as good in S/N as the Sony.
Sony Condenser
Sensitivity: -28db
S/N: 78db
Dynamic range: 111db or more
The question isn't whether or not poor DIYers can do this, it's whether or not readily available microphones can. The answer is yes, even a Panasonic mic can do well enough for probably 99% of what we do.
Dave
"Mikrodigi plans to ship at the beginning of April"?
Ha ha!! Good one.
Dave, by all respect, I do not know the reason for your stubborness in this thread. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, most here are believers. I can not see the harm in it....
Peter
Ha ha!! Good one.
Dave, by all respect, I do not know the reason for your stubborness in this thread. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, most here are believers. I can not see the harm in it....
Peter
duhhh
well speaking of trolling... guess it's appropriate for this thread then... seeing as how magic and superstition trump measurement and reality...
so we can all agree to disagree... just try not to post technical sounding "measurements" and discussions as some sort of science validated theory and all will be right with the world!!
😀 😉
John L.
SimontY said:
At least you're able to display a sense of humour now
well speaking of trolling... guess it's appropriate for this thread then... seeing as how magic and superstition trump measurement and reality...
so we can all agree to disagree... just try not to post technical sounding "measurements" and discussions as some sort of science validated theory and all will be right with the world!!
😀 😉
John L.
SimontY said:
Thank goodness!
I was starting to think that everyone was taking the Mikrodigi thing seriously!
Yes, the Mikrodigi article is a JOKE
and very funny. 😀If you missed it, re-read the whole article and look at the acronyms...
Cheers,
Alex
Alex from Oz said:
Thank goodness!
I was starting to think that everyone was taking the Mikrodigi thing seriously!
Yes, the Mikrodigi article is a JOKE
If you missed it, re-read the whole article and look at the acronyms...
Cheers,
Alex
I've got to admit, I got stung on that one. Reading too fast thinking there was something serious there.
Dave
Can u say Loschmidt
6.023 x 10^23... that thar's a big number... 10^6 MIPS x 16 is still pretty small compared to that!!! har har har
I especially liked the part about -237 F with an AC cooling device...yuk yuk
Boy... those MIT types is sur smart, ain'r they... puttin one over on the hicks out there on the i'net...
Kinda like this here thread...
scott wurcer said:
6.023 x 10^23... that thar's a big number... 10^6 MIPS x 16 is still pretty small compared to that!!! har har har
I especially liked the part about -237 F with an AC cooling device...yuk yuk
Boy... those MIT types is sur smart, ain'r they... puttin one over on the hicks out there on the i'net...
Kinda like this here thread...
I got excited reading it at first; if true it would have truly remarkable implications for my field (SONAR). As most engineers do, I ignored the acronyms and skimmed the text. It wasn't till he talked of reaching temperatures of -237F with a heat pump compressor that I checked the header of the article and noticed that it was published in April of 1995. The year told me all I needed to know about the veracity (would we not all be using them by now), the month confirmed the joke was on me. An excellent ruse!
By the way, I think the EnABL thing is a bunch of "Spherical Holographic Information Transcription" to quote the clever Mr. Moulton. It is an interesting read into psychology and I will say that in that regard it is not a total waste.
-David
By the way, I think the EnABL thing is a bunch of "Spherical Holographic Information Transcription" to quote the clever Mr. Moulton. It is an interesting read into psychology and I will say that in that regard it is not a total waste.
-David
microphone madness
The cool thing is that all on this thread who believe that EnAble is a bunch of "Spherical Holographic Information Transcription" are welcome to wear really expensive ear plugs when the music is on, and point a perfectly engineered microphone at their speakers and look at graphs on their computers.
Personally, I'm going to listen to the music. Ever since I finished EnAbling, I have become delusional and really believe the sound is worth savoring. Silly me. Back to musical nirvana. No argument there.
Oh, another listening impression. For the first couple of days, I couldn't leave the Jazz alone. Last night near the end of my listening time I popped on YoYo Ma. Unbelievable! Sampled Choir music with Anonomous 4. The space and harmonics were perfect. Then a Bach organ recital. Not formerly my cup of tea. I was transformed to a cathedral and experienced that room effect I have read about. I was in the cathedral and had a perfect sense of the scale of the room.
The cool thing is that all on this thread who believe that EnAble is a bunch of "Spherical Holographic Information Transcription" are welcome to wear really expensive ear plugs when the music is on, and point a perfectly engineered microphone at their speakers and look at graphs on their computers.
Personally, I'm going to listen to the music. Ever since I finished EnAbling, I have become delusional and really believe the sound is worth savoring. Silly me. Back to musical nirvana. No argument there.
Oh, another listening impression. For the first couple of days, I couldn't leave the Jazz alone. Last night near the end of my listening time I popped on YoYo Ma. Unbelievable! Sampled Choir music with Anonomous 4. The space and harmonics were perfect. Then a Bach organ recital. Not formerly my cup of tea. I was transformed to a cathedral and experienced that room effect I have read about. I was in the cathedral and had a perfect sense of the scale of the room.
Re: microphone madness
yeah.. that is kinda cool... I get that without enabling anything.... just think... all those dots could've been avoided... 😀 😉
wlowes said:
yeah.. that is kinda cool... I get that without enabling anything.... just think... all those dots could've been avoided... 😀 😉
auplater,
Perhaps you would once again post a picture of your system, and perhaps compare cost structures with wlowes?
Bud
Perhaps you would once again post a picture of your system, and perhaps compare cost structures with wlowes?
Bud
BudP said:
Don't know wlowes cost structure....try the search function for auplater AND RD75 posts from 2006 or so... it's here somewhere...
besides... I'm just making a subjective observation of the sound I (and others) have witnessed...😉
l8tr
John L.
Re: Can u say Loschmidt
I was thinking with how small the element was and the 32 bits you sort of run out of atoms to count.
auplater said:
I was thinking with how small the element was and the 32 bits you sort of run out of atoms to count.
BudP said:
Here is one of my speakers... Bought them new in 1982 for $300. Generally available now for anywhere from $10 - $350 depending on condition. Mine were mint but the foam was shot so $10. My cost to transform included new foam surrounds $2, 2 sheets of felt - $5, new 18guage solid copper with teflon - $0.50, putty $6, modpodge $2.50, acrylic paint $2.50, microgloss $2.50. New crossover here's the big one about $50 in parts for blackgate AC caps. So I figure about $80 CDN or $60 USD. Here is the pic.
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