So, does the P7 have the 2.5mm socket on the table?
As far as the sensor, the closer the magnet comes to the sensor IC, the better (without making contact).
As far as the sensor, the closer the magnet comes to the sensor IC, the better (without making contact).
The Rega power supply is connected to the P7 using a 4 pin DIN connector, the power supply is connected to the power line via a wall wart-there are no other sockets on the P7-the P7 is an older Rega table living between the P9 and the P5.
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10 Audio Review of Eagle PSU vs VPI SDS
Jerry Seigel at 10 Audio just posted his review of the Eagle PSU vs the VPI SDS:
Phoenix Engineering RoadRunner Tachometer - Falcon/Eagle Power Supplies and VPI SDS Motor Controller | 10 Audio
Jerry Seigel at 10 Audio just posted his review of the Eagle PSU vs the VPI SDS:
Phoenix Engineering RoadRunner Tachometer - Falcon/Eagle Power Supplies and VPI SDS Motor Controller | 10 Audio
Hi Pyramid
Can the Falcon controle the Motor-Upgradekit 24V for RP3?
I'm seriously considering the Falcon and RoardRunner instead of Rega original TT-PSU, as I get the RoadRunner to monitor the speed.
Can the Falcon controle the Motor-Upgradekit 24V for RP3?
I'm seriously considering the Falcon and RoardRunner instead of Rega original TT-PSU, as I get the RoadRunner to monitor the speed.
Sabroe-
The Falcon can work with the Rega 24V motor by plugging the motor's wall adapter into the Falcon output. You do not need the Rega adapter cable.
The Falcon can work with the Rega 24V motor by plugging the motor's wall adapter into the Falcon output. You do not need the Rega adapter cable.
Hi Pyramid,
My turntable uses dual motors and is only drawing around 3W. Does the Eagle have better performance than the Falcon in this setting?
My turntable uses dual motors and is only drawing around 3W. Does the Eagle have better performance than the Falcon in this setting?
@Pyramid
Thank you for your reply. It sound easy.
Is the Falcon then controlling the speed by regulating the volt or frq. input?
Just curious
Thank you for your reply. It sound easy.
Is the Falcon then controlling the speed by regulating the volt or frq. input?
Just curious
Falcon
I forgot to mention my motors are on 220V.
If the Falcon can only output 110V, can I use an AC transformer to change the output to 220V? Is there any drawback?
I forgot to mention my motors are on 220V.
If the Falcon can only output 110V, can I use an AC transformer to change the output to 220V? Is there any drawback?
Hi Pyramid,
My turntable uses dual motors and is only drawing around 3W. Does the Eagle have better performance than the Falcon in this setting?
Sabroe-
The speed of AC synch motors are controlled by the frequency. We can reduce the voltage to reduce vibration, but control the speed by changing frequency.
The speed of AC synch motors are controlled by the frequency. We can reduce the voltage to reduce vibration, but control the speed by changing frequency.
Sunsun22-
Are the motors 3W each (will need the Eagle) or 3W total (OK with Falcon)?
You can use a step up transformer (travel convertor) with the Falcon to drive 220V motors, but they are not 100% efficient so you will have to add the amount of power they consume to the total power used. The larger the step up transformer, the more power it will use. The Eagle can output 230V directly without a step up xfmr.
Are the motors 3W each (will need the Eagle) or 3W total (OK with Falcon)?
You can use a step up transformer (travel convertor) with the Falcon to drive 220V motors, but they are not 100% efficient so you will have to add the amount of power they consume to the total power used. The larger the step up transformer, the more power it will use. The Eagle can output 230V directly without a step up xfmr.
Falcon or Eagle
The measurement is at the present PSU output and the actual measurement is only 2.8W total for two motors. I am planning to use a 100W step up transformer therefore; I believe, 5W should be sufficient but my concern is: -
Does the Eagle have better performance than Falcon (for example; but not limited to, distortion, better sine wave, lesser frequency fluctuation etc.)? If they are they same, I prefer to use the extra money for the RoadRunner.
The measurement is at the present PSU output and the actual measurement is only 2.8W total for two motors. I am planning to use a 100W step up transformer therefore; I believe, 5W should be sufficient but my concern is: -
Does the Eagle have better performance than Falcon (for example; but not limited to, distortion, better sine wave, lesser frequency fluctuation etc.)? If they are they same, I prefer to use the extra money for the RoadRunner.
Sunsun22-
Are the motors 3W each (will need the Eagle) or 3W total (OK with Falcon)?
You can use a step up transformer (travel convertor) with the Falcon to drive 220V motors, but they are not 100% efficient so you will have to add the amount of power they consume to the total power used. The larger the step up transformer, the more power it will use. The Eagle can output 230V directly without a step up xfmr.
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The Eagle and Falcon use the same digital control and frequency generation circuits and the operation is the same (they run the same firmware). They use different output amps and have different max power ratings; THD is very similar in both.
A 100W step up transformer is overkill for this application (IMO) and due to losses in the xfmr, may consume more than 5W total. If you have a way to measure this, I would confirm power consumption before trying to drive it with a Falcon PSU.
A 100W step up transformer is overkill for this application (IMO) and due to losses in the xfmr, may consume more than 5W total. If you have a way to measure this, I would confirm power consumption before trying to drive it with a Falcon PSU.
Hi Pyramid, I have Kenwood L-07D direct drive turntable. is it worth buy RoadRunner for DD turntable? I know important to belt drive turntable. Raj
If the turntable has a built in strobe that should get you close but the RoadRunner will be more accurate.
The RR tach requires ~6mm of clearance between plinth and platter for the magnet and sensor.
The RR tach requires ~6mm of clearance between plinth and platter for the magnet and sensor.
25W Eagle PSU now shipping
We have been beta testing the 25W version of the Eagle for ~ a year and we are now in full production and shipping only the 25W version. Functionally and operationally, they are the same as the 15W version and the price has stayed the same.
There are some internal differences in both the 25W controller and amplifier section so they are not interchangeable with the 15W versions. The wall adapter is also a different voltage between the two versions so they cannot be mixed as well.
There is no advantage to using the 25W version over the 15W version on lower power motors, they will both function the same and have the same benefits. The 25W version was created to be compatible with some of the legacy tables like Lenco, Garrard, Thorens, Empire and others.
The 15W version has been discontinued and replaced by the 25W version effective immediately.
We have been beta testing the 25W version of the Eagle for ~ a year and we are now in full production and shipping only the 25W version. Functionally and operationally, they are the same as the 15W version and the price has stayed the same.
There are some internal differences in both the 25W controller and amplifier section so they are not interchangeable with the 15W versions. The wall adapter is also a different voltage between the two versions so they cannot be mixed as well.
There is no advantage to using the 25W version over the 15W version on lower power motors, they will both function the same and have the same benefits. The 25W version was created to be compatible with some of the legacy tables like Lenco, Garrard, Thorens, Empire and others.
The 15W version has been discontinued and replaced by the 25W version effective immediately.
Serial number 620239 and higher are 25W units. Also the front panel legend shows 25W max instead of 15W, and the rear panel shows 24VDC instead of 48VDC. The wall adapters that ship with the 25W units are 24VDC at 60W where the wall adapters with the 15W Eagles are 48VDC at 60W.
The Absolute Sound Reviews Eagle + RoadRunner
Andre Jennings reviewed the Eagle PSU and RoadRunner Tach in the July/Aug issue of TAS. You can download a PDF of the review here: TAS Eagle/RoadRunner Review
Andre Jennings reviewed the Eagle PSU and RoadRunner Tach in the July/Aug issue of TAS. You can download a PDF of the review here: TAS Eagle/RoadRunner Review
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