hi olsond3,
nice ideas too !
but in the digital chain,
as we get a signal from USB (often), the convertion to AES is better than to spdif, because less jitter-sensitive (to get clear : AES is less jitter-sensitive to spdif)
nice ideas too !
but in the digital chain,
as we get a signal from USB (often), the convertion to AES is better than to spdif, because less jitter-sensitive (to get clear : AES is less jitter-sensitive to spdif)
https://www.thomannmusic.com/the_t.racks_fir_dsp_408.htm
I just got one of these (non-FIR version) but haven't tried it yet. Manual says you can select AES for inputs and outputs.
I just got one of these (non-FIR version) but haven't tried it yet. Manual says you can select AES for inputs and outputs.
This has a 2x8 AES option, 96/196kHz, has limited FIR...
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806414564436.html?
Another AES input card can be added to make it 4x8.
You can play with the software without a device attached if you want to try it out...
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...89-4in-6out-pcm1798-board.339777/post-7688472
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806414564436.html?
Another AES input card can be added to make it 4x8.
You can play with the software without a device attached if you want to try it out...
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...89-4in-6out-pcm1798-board.339777/post-7688472
SPDIF and AES EBU is the exact same signaling. They are just different voltage levels. How can one be less sensitive to jitter? That makes no sense to me. The conversion from one to the other is done with a transformer or level converter.
My apologies, I did not understand that you wanted AES including the amplifier inputs! 😳
Hi olsond3,
thanks for your reply, you may be right...👍
but like many guy, I got a info a while ago, and I stick on it 🙂 Thus, for me, AES/EBU is more reliable & less jitter sensitive than spdif.
I have to find the info that confirms my point 🙂 , but if I remember "well", it's related to the clock recovery : this process is not the same when a device receive a spdif signal vs a AES-EBU signal.
phile1 Maybe have a look at this. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CDL313--hosa-cdl-313. It is just a signal level conversion to go between the two. There's no clock recovery in that box.
If being limited to 24/96 is not a problem - the combination of a xilica Solara with DANTE in conjunction with the FOCUSRITE Rednet D16R gives you close to unlimited flexibility and AES EBU input and output.
!6 channels in and out - I use 8 out and two in.
I have used the combination for over a year and figure it could last me the rest of my life
!6 channels in and out - I use 8 out and two in.
I have used the combination for over a year and figure it could last me the rest of my life
hi olsond3m
172USD with a crappy SMPS to power this stuff !
=> any "audio guy" should get away from that !
I mean, any "audio guy" that have no clue about electronics & just can "trust" some ads.
I was a jerk in electronics... I leared a bit in the mean time and I can tell that this kind of interface is ... I don't know ! But given its (hoo high) price I'll not try it !
My 2 cents : why bother about weird interface like that ?
Let's go ahead => we have many active speakers & sub with AES input on the market => feel free to try them !
I have no need to convert my AES signal to inferior optical SPDIF. Not sure for what purpose I would do so? My signal is already in the AES form and it will stay like that unless there would be some real extra benefit.
I used to use optical spdif about 20 years ago and it didnt always work so good. And as far as I know AES connector with its higher voltage is also superior in some cases to regular coaxial SPDIF too. However coaxial SPDIF has worked much better than optical. In any case, downgrading to any SPDIF, is a no go.
Also we already have discussed in this topic, Minidsp does not have a product that would fill the requirements I previously listed. 🙂
That is why I have now bought and already using the Linea Research.
https://linea-research.co.uk/asc48/
Is working great btw. Minidsp has fully digital internal processing too, but Linea seems to sound more clear in some aspects, which I did not expect! It of course might be because the internal processing is done differently in diffent devices resulting in possible sound quality differences. Who knows... Processing power is always limited so there might be some need for some compromise, only Minidsp engineers would be able to comment if they had to make some.
Now of course that made me curious how the Lab Gruppen Lake LMX 48 would have sounded, but since it was not available I did not buy it. I was asked about my budget, my budget is in good shape so I might later purchase the LMX48 too, we will see. My friend already was interested using Linea on his music festivals so it would not be wasted either.
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Over the past 20 years, optical spdif technology has advanced and eliminated childhood diseases. Now they are pushing 192kHz 32bit through optics, and also pushing the ADAT format through optics.
This is all very controversial if we are talking about distances up to 10 meters.
Good to know optical spdif has developed, I have not used it since I disappointed. However I still do not want to convert to it if there is no reason. I hope that is clear 🙂
Completely unnecessary conversions never improve the sound quality or the reliability.
I also have a DJ setup system that is sometimes over 10 meters from the crossover. I use Pioneer V10 mixer which has an AES output too. A very nice sounding mixer btw.
Completely unnecessary conversions never improve the sound quality or the reliability.
I also have a DJ setup system that is sometimes over 10 meters from the crossover. I use Pioneer V10 mixer which has an AES output too. A very nice sounding mixer btw.
Of course it's understandable. I simply focused on the fact that optical speed data today is better than optical speed data 20 years ago.
The fact that it is much more convenient for you to use AES/EBU is a consequence of your professional activity in which AES/EBU is justified due to the very specifics of the equipment and it is up to you to decide which input is more convenient for you, but I would not say that coaxial spdif works much better than optical, without specifying what distances we are talking about. I would say that at a distance of up to 10 meters all options are equivalent.
That is correct. I know some people have all kinds of delusions, for example claiming how having golden connectors on the digital cable would change the sound "completely". It is important for them to understand that as long as the flow of data is not interrupted, the sound quality is perfect with any method of data transport and cable. Heck, when I was a kid, I loaded bit perfect data to my personal computer from a C cassette...
Hi,
Yes that one was missing from the list too, thanks. Truly is one of the most affordable options, only some hundreds of bucks. How has it worked for you and how is the sound?
https://en.nuoxun.com/?list_123/
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Allright, I guess that might work also, though I noticed the connectors are not typical AES, which probably many prefer. Probably because they also advertise it to be used in a car too and it looks it is not the standard rack width but more compact size. Also it has a fan, not sure if it turns on ever but if it did, it could make some noise in a living room. Price, if I calculated correctly is only couple hundred bucks.
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Yes, there are plenty of such people; optical cables are coated with “gold” especially for them.🙂
Ok, in the back panel text AES is printed only on one ouput, does it have one AES output or four? Four would be needed. Also might be handy for some people to have two AES inputs.
I searched that for Diyaudio comments and user gigantic wrote: "it has a fan that runs all of the time. That’s a bonus for pro audio, but for home use, it’s a deal breaker that defeats the low noise floor of the signal."