Be interesting to hear what others think is the reasons that full range speakers have that magical quality.
My take on it is that a musical note whether sung or played by an instrument is a more complex sound than one would suppose. A piano for instance has a hammer striking a string. So there is another sound or frequency than just the note itself. If this broader spectrum of sound falls over the range of a multi way speaker's cross over network something is lost or at least recessed.
So my admittedly simplistic idea is that a full range speaker has a seamless, lively presentation that a multi way speaker often cannot deliver. I doubt that I will be going back to multi way speakers because I value this quality highly. My coniston^2's are making me exceedingly happy. My family and friends find them remarkable as well.
My take on it is that a musical note whether sung or played by an instrument is a more complex sound than one would suppose. A piano for instance has a hammer striking a string. So there is another sound or frequency than just the note itself. If this broader spectrum of sound falls over the range of a multi way speaker's cross over network something is lost or at least recessed.
So my admittedly simplistic idea is that a full range speaker has a seamless, lively presentation that a multi way speaker often cannot deliver. I doubt that I will be going back to multi way speakers because I value this quality highly. My coniston^2's are making me exceedingly happy. My family and friends find them remarkable as well.
Look up 'Timbre' and 'Harmonics'
Or sometimes accentuated from overlap.
In the end that's all that matters, right? 🙂
seamless
I would agree with Planet10 on the idea of seamless. After all, musical instruments were invented to mimic the first musical instrument: The human voice. No crossover there.
I would agree with Planet10 on the idea of seamless. After all, musical instruments were invented to mimic the first musical instrument: The human voice. No crossover there.
"Seemless" is not a word😉😀
(couldn't resist Dave, must be the Old Crow bourbon talking...)
naah
all that is hype , nothing else
FRs are outa fashion , same as tubes ;
that's just GrandMa Radio Nostalgia
all that is hype , nothing else
FRs are outa fashion , same as tubes ;
that's just GrandMa Radio Nostalgia
Seamless then... but in many circumstances there don't seem to be speakers playing... Seemless.
dave
naah
all that is hype , nothing else
FRs are outa fashion , same as tubes ;
that's just GrandMa Radio Nostalgia
Well, to be honest, there is just the smallest, tiniest, microscopic pinch of crystal radio ambiance in the mix. This makes full rangers absolutely irresistible. Kind of like a pretty girl with a mole by her lip.
jut to be clear : I don't like FRs !
except : Sonido , Iskra , Saba, Cabasse , Grundig , Lorenz , Philips ,Foster , RFT ;
these are which I have now .
except : Sonido , Iskra , Saba, Cabasse , Grundig , Lorenz , Philips ,Foster , RFT ;
these are which I have now .
I've found FR speakers to be seemless as well, as in:
"It seems like there is less bass than I'd hear in a live performance"
;-)
"It seems like there is less bass than I'd hear in a live performance"
;-)
yes , I still have them ( and will defend them , if needed
) ;but these aren't FR , but you already know that
anyway - you and Cal will certainly understand my illness 😀
somebody will say - "don't use force - use a bigger hammer "
either learn how to squeeze bass from them , or add woof helper
Papa just released B5 manual , on FW site
I see...jut to be clear : I don't like FRs !
except : Sonido , Iskra , Saba, Cabasse , Grundig , Lorenz , Philips ,Foster , RFT ;
these are which I have now .
if you like iskra, Lorenz , Philips ,Foster , RFT- no wonder that you have such opinion on tubes...
I hope nobody accept that 'valuable' opinion seriously.
😉
That's what I have done (with a lot of help from Planet10).
But, doesn't that make it a 2-way speaker with a woofer and a high woof/mid/tweeter aka 'Full'-Range?
When I see a 'Full-Range' speaker with a woof added for bass and a tweeter sitting on top of the cab.......
Probably real 'Fullrange' is just not physically possible?
John
Both...it's a bit of an uphill fight for a FE167 to reproduce the sound of a bass played through an Ampeg B15....or a modern SS bass rig...
Actually, there kind of is - its called "passagio". There are different vocal registers, and part of vocal training is learning to move seamlessly from one register to another without breaks. If you've heard someone yodel - thats an example of moving from register to register with a pronounced break. Although you could make a good argument that the voice is the ultimate musical instrument, you could also make the argument that its kind of like trying to make music with a vacuum cleaner attached to a balloon - none of the parts were originally intended for quite that purpose and it ain't so easy.
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