I have the Dayton Audio DATS V3 speaker tester where the software works on a Windows 10 PC.
I went to install it on another Windows 10 PC and the software starts, but says not responding then closes.
The Windows 10 PC it works on and the one it doesn't work on:
1. Are the same model.
2. Have the same exact hardware configuration. Same model RAM, same processor, same hard drive ETC...
3. Have the same exact software configuration.
By identical I mean that I can swap hard drives between the two and the only thing I might have to do is reactivate Windows.
Also given the PCs are so identical, it should not be possible for me to be having this problem, yet I have it.
Any reason for it not to run on another identical PC?
I went to install it on another Windows 10 PC and the software starts, but says not responding then closes.
The Windows 10 PC it works on and the one it doesn't work on:
1. Are the same model.
2. Have the same exact hardware configuration. Same model RAM, same processor, same hard drive ETC...
3. Have the same exact software configuration.
By identical I mean that I can swap hard drives between the two and the only thing I might have to do is reactivate Windows.
Also given the PCs are so identical, it should not be possible for me to be having this problem, yet I have it.
Any reason for it not to run on another identical PC?
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Windows is an extremely complicated system, very likely there are a number of differences between seemingly same installations.
Google reports quite some discussions about this SW issues. E.g. https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/dats-v3-starts-then-closes.390792/ - does e.g. the Event Viewer report anything?
Google reports quite some discussions about this SW issues. E.g. https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/dats-v3-starts-then-closes.390792/ - does e.g. the Event Viewer report anything?
If there's any differences I have not noticed them at all and I know a fair bit about computers.
I'll have to check the event viewer.
I'll have to check the event viewer.
Here's what event viewer shows.
Faulting application name: DATS.exe, version: 3.1.6.0, time stamp: 0x61422597
Faulting module name: DATS.exe, version: 3.1.6.0, time stamp: 0x61422597
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x0006d583
Faulting process id: 0x1070
Faulting application start time: 0x01db99d05dcc69d4
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DATS_V3\DATS.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DATS_V3\DATS.exe
Report Id: d2f90070-80f2-4647-8603-b970d0bae351
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Fault bucket 1621159902348191342, type 1
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0
Problem signature:
P1: DATS.exe
P2: 3.1.6.0
P3: 61422597
P4: DATS.exe
P5: 3.1.6.0
P6: 61422597
P7: c000041d
P8: 0006d583
P9:
P10:
Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: d2f90070-80f2-4647-8603-b970d0bae351
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: e3b6451b44016483867f84578792266e
Cab Guid: 0
Faulting application name: DATS.exe, version: 3.1.6.0, time stamp: 0x61422597
Faulting module name: DATS.exe, version: 3.1.6.0, time stamp: 0x61422597
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x0006d583
Faulting process id: 0x1070
Faulting application start time: 0x01db99d05dcc69d4
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DATS_V3\DATS.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DATS_V3\DATS.exe
Report Id: d2f90070-80f2-4647-8603-b970d0bae351
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Fault bucket 1621159902348191342, type 1
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0
Problem signature:
P1: DATS.exe
P2: 3.1.6.0
P3: 61422597
P4: DATS.exe
P5: 3.1.6.0
P6: 61422597
P7: c000041d
P8: 0006d583
P9:
P10:
Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: d2f90070-80f2-4647-8603-b970d0bae351
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: e3b6451b44016483867f84578792266e
Cab Guid: 0
IIUC exception code 0xc000041d has no specific meaning. Some people suggest to reinstall the .net framework. But IMO those are just trial/error attempts.
I tried to follow a link in event viewer to a folder related to the error and was denied access. Even when I took ownership of the folder I still am being denied access. There a way to fix that?
You could try running in “compatibility mode”, say try running it so it thinks the OS is Windows 7.
Note that being an owner of a folder just makes you the owner. At that point you can grant yourself read/write/delete etc.
Note that being an owner of a folder just makes you the owner. At that point you can grant yourself read/write/delete etc.
I tried compatibility mode but that didn't work.
I already have all those permissions, yet I get the following no matter what I do:
What good is having event viewer list a folder that I cannot view even when I have direct ownership?
I already have all those permissions, yet I get the following no matter what I do:
What good is having event viewer list a folder that I cannot view even when I have direct ownership?
NTFS permissions are hierarchical in that certain attributes can override others. If there is an explicit “Deny” permission set somewhere that will take precedence and your read permissions will be ignored. This is by design.
Certain attributes like “hidden” and “system” sometimes block some actions.
If you are lucky, you never get to find out about this 🙂.
It can take a lot of patient investigation to get to the bottom of these issues and it is years since I had to do it.
In the back of my mind there is something about “Trusted Installer” rights that can also get in the way.
I wish you luck, these issues are not the ones that bring joy ☹️.
Jeff.
Certain attributes like “hidden” and “system” sometimes block some actions.
If you are lucky, you never get to find out about this 🙂.
It can take a lot of patient investigation to get to the bottom of these issues and it is years since I had to do it.
In the back of my mind there is something about “Trusted Installer” rights that can also get in the way.
I wish you luck, these issues are not the ones that bring joy ☹️.
Jeff.
Perhaps the Effective Access tab would tell where in the parents chain the access is denied https://4sysops.com/archives/dynamic-access-control-dac-part-5-effective-access/
I did that and the admin account I use has all access that is shown on that tab.
It's acting like I am not the owner of said folder even though I am given each time I try to view the folder I have to do the same steps again except changing the owner as it shows my account as owner.
That said why would event viewer call out a folder that cannot be viewed even when the admin account I am on is owner of said folder.
It's acting like I am not the owner of said folder even though I am given each time I try to view the folder I have to do the same steps again except changing the owner as it shows my account as owner.
That said why would event viewer call out a folder that cannot be viewed even when the admin account I am on is owner of said folder.
Apparently people do have problems with denied permissions to that folder https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2192961/werreportarchive-permissions . I am glad I can afford to use windows only in rare cases.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2192961/werreportarchive-permissions
Pretty much exactly what I'm seeing.
Problem solved. Rivauner statistics server was causing the issue with DATS not running. Uninstalled it after discovering that was the problem.
Not sure what version of that I was using, but it is likely not the current version.
Not sure what version of that I was using, but it is likely not the current version.