@merlin el mago , I repeat you are not the only one to listen to live music,, meet musicians, etc.
You have not understood my purpose. Your input is clueless as anyway far before the two live events, the hifi doesn't approach only one event good reproduction enough. If you listen to acousticalclassical or jazz instrument you should know that. Even one of my friend is tenor, but maybe your hifi is sota I dunno. But even when hearing a onemillion hifi, it doesn't approach even close acoustical instruments and it hasnothing to see with air humidity or mood of the player !
Btw I am not the bird of the year, have some experience and culture, have access to venues in Paris, etc, growned in jazz club when I was student and so on. You will teach nothing to me about that. At this point I found your input only dialectic about two acoustical events compared to an hifi.
My 2 cents at least.
You have not understood my purpose. Your input is clueless as anyway far before the two live events, the hifi doesn't approach only one event good reproduction enough. If you listen to acousticalclassical or jazz instrument you should know that. Even one of my friend is tenor, but maybe your hifi is sota I dunno. But even when hearing a onemillion hifi, it doesn't approach even close acoustical instruments and it hasnothing to see with air humidity or mood of the player !
Btw I am not the bird of the year, have some experience and culture, have access to venues in Paris, etc, growned in jazz club when I was student and so on. You will teach nothing to me about that. At this point I found your input only dialectic about two acoustical events compared to an hifi.
My 2 cents at least.
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I saw the Halle Orchestra performing some works I liked, when it was based at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester.
I can't remember the tonality of the instruments, but I remember it being loud, in comparison to the rock bands which performed at the same venue.
I don't think our hearing is as good as some people think it is.
I can't remember the tonality of the instruments, but I remember it being loud, in comparison to the rock bands which performed at the same venue.
I don't think our hearing is as good as some people think it is.
Yes.So you apply your live experiences to something that was recorded in a studio?
Yes, hard and long journey but also enjoyment.Must be a lot of work with a lot of disappointments.
Because can't be my reference: I don't know the way the recording engineer want to sound....Why not enjoy your sources the way the recording engineer intended?
As I see I'm not retouching, I want to preserve the original.You probably also would retouch the Mona Lisa if you ever got that painting ;- )
Easy answer.
Best for you if you listen live music with not amplified musical instruments because you know and have the reference and target. About musicians are other world....@merlin el mago , I repeat you are not the only one to listen to live music,, meet musicians, etc.
Why on earth you believe if you never listened a true cello with a system nobody can't heard a true cello, have you listened all systems on earth?You have not understood my purpose. Your input is clueless as anyway far before the two live events, the hifi doesn't approach only one event good reproduction enough. If you listen to acousticalclassical or jazz instrument you should know that. Even one of my friend is tenor, but maybe your hifi is sota I dunno. But even when hearing a onemillion hifi, it doesn't approach even close acoustical instruments and it hasnothing to see with air humidity or mood of the player !
You aren't the only one listen live acoustical, classical or jazz ....
I have also musicians friends but that's irrellevant.
If you don't understand that air humidity, atmospheric pressure, how do you feel, how the musician feels when doing his performance, all affects the way you listen, feel, enjoy or pain....
I never told you don't have experience nor culture, I'm sorry and receive my apologizes.Btw I am not the bird of the year, have some experience and culture, have access to venues in Paris, etc, growned in jazz club when I was student and so on. You will teach nothing to me about that. At this point I found your input only dialectic about two acoustical events compared to an hifi.
Doesn't never my intention to teach you, please apologizes. I only told you how I do.
My 2 cents at least.
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I think you still need to consider the system aspect... It might still be that if the rest of your chain was different, you would actually prefer the "top SINAD" dac... clinically it is a more accurate "re-creator"... ponder that.What happens if your old pcm dac is only 16 bits but you experience a better experience for your taste and musicians tastes VS the said top of the SINAD .?
I'm sure you are conveying the experience and feeling at the time you did the test.
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If you regularly attend live performance of non amplified acoustical instruments I would think that you will be better to judge a systems ability to perform a correct recreation of a musical event.
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You can recognise your friend's voice on the telephone, that pinnacle of acoustic reproduction.
But just like the eye-witness reports which proved to be unreliable, acoustic memory is flawed.
But just like the eye-witness reports which proved to be unreliable, acoustic memory is flawed.
Yes, this is very impressive that the speech coder is so good. But I live it is an other aspect than true fidelity.
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I meant the old fashioned telephone, with its carbon microphone, balanced-armature earpiece, anti-sidetone transformer, barretter, and 300 - 3.4kHz bandwidth. I could still recognise my friends' voices.
The sound quality is so much better on modern 'phones, youngsters have no idea how we suffered with the crackly lines and high distortion.
The sound quality is so much better on modern 'phones, youngsters have no idea how we suffered with the crackly lines and high distortion.
I enjoy listening to music, now that I have stopped worrying about its quality.
I think you still need to consider the system aspect... It might still be that if the rest of your chain was different, you would actually prefer the "top SINAD" dac... clinically it is a more accurate "re-creator"... ponder that.
I'm sure you are conveying the experience and feeling at the time you did the test.
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I waited for that.... Do you think 10k euros speakers and a Chord amp, Yamaha CX2 pre, Cardas and Oyaide interconnects to be bad ? As well as my others loudspeakers, Proac, etc ! What a joke !
LOL anyway I don't listen to 130 dB dynamic classical concert at home and the accuracy of studio reccorded discs are also better !
Btw, I am so fed up with such basic clames and cvhi-fi thread, it motivated me to post a true DIY project I achieved. One of the people who tried it prefered it to his own TDA1541A , other AD1862 DAC or Holo Cyan(iirc) of one of his audio buddy !
SO it is a "Is there still cheap better sounding DAC than the chiFi ?" nd the answer is yes as far music is your concern !
Hello,
First 5 pcbs batch is over. But I post if there is an interest for a next batch as users testing it are more than happy.
I worked several years to meet my expectations with the AD1862 20 bits DAC chip. Made several protos as I already worked with the boards made by painkiller and miro1360 projects long time ago.
So Why another pcb ? I wanted to stay NOS but a pcb enhanced for :
First 5 pcbs batch is over. But I post if there is an interest for a next batch as users testing it are more than happy.
I worked several years to meet my expectations with the AD1862 20 bits DAC chip. Made several protos as I already worked with the boards made by painkiller and miro1360 projects long time ago.
So Why another pcb ? I wanted to stay NOS but a pcb enhanced for :
- - a pcb allowing a layout for high speed SOIC 8 op amps and also a further follower voltage gain or buffer with a second soic 8 after the conversion if needed.
- - a pcb to be very quiet with...
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Yes.
You have basicly to sorta of people nowadays with hifi : the ones with experience and the one whom are choosing their toys on internet in their sofa; thinking it is good because others said so.
I don't know how it could poped up in a DIY forum where most of the people DIY to targett better results than those toys sold like fast fashion with a smell of science inputs...
You have basicly to sorta of people nowadays with hifi : the ones with experience and the one whom are choosing their toys on internet in their sofa; thinking it is good because others said so.
I don't know how it could poped up in a DIY forum where most of the people DIY to targett better results than those toys sold like fast fashion with a smell of science inputs...
100% agreeI hve no idea what all this is about, I think this thread has run its course.
Jan
HAve you thougth to purchase yourself a ghetto box ?
That is certainly enough ... If you knew what was a TCO, you will know that you don't buy good enough devices when buying such a cheap chifi devices.
That is certainly enough ... If you knew what was a TCO, you will know that you don't buy good enough devices when buying such a cheap chifi devices.
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You seem to confuse quality with cost? How about if you tried an expensive DAC with high SINAD - would that be better for you perhaps? Im just now listening to two SU-1 in my active 2-way speakers - its sound really wonderful and very lifelike. I know, because I visit churches and concert halls. This is really how it sounds. An old PCM63 is just murky - but you probably need that to stand your old fashion tech electronics.Yes.
You have basicly to sorta of people nowadays with hifi : the ones with experience and the one whom are choosing their toys on internet in their sofa; thinking it is good because others said so.
I don't know how it could poped up in a DIY forum where most of the people DIY to targett better results than those toys sold like fast fashion with a smell of science inputs...
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