Hi all,
Planning to drop my newly acquired (for a great price!!! &BEAUTIFUL!!!) F10 Neo V1 (Fs 30 Hz, Qts 0.50) into a 12.5 W × 15 D × 43 H″ birch tower (net ≈ 103 L).
I want to aim for 30 Hz reach but keep the driver’s mid/treble magic.
Because of the size constrains, I wonder what's a proven build that could help me get there. I've done so much research I am now actually lost: folds, back loaded horns, MLTL, TQWT, tuned precision port - different lengths.... etc etc.
Planning to drop my newly acquired (for a great price!!! &BEAUTIFUL!!!) F10 Neo V1 (Fs 30 Hz, Qts 0.50) into a 12.5 W × 15 D × 43 H″ birch tower (net ≈ 103 L).
I want to aim for 30 Hz reach but keep the driver’s mid/treble magic.
Because of the size constrains, I wonder what's a proven build that could help me get there. I've done so much research I am now actually lost: folds, back loaded horns, MLTL, TQWT, tuned precision port - different lengths.... etc etc.
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Oh, my room size is 12x15 with a big ottoman in front of the right speaker so I think down firing could be a solution since it's less picky. I saw the Cube Audio F10 plan but the problem is I don't have a lot of space to pull it out from the front wall, so a back firing port is not a great option.
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I have also recently scored a pair of the F10 Neo v1…seems Nenuphar owners are upgrading to v2 “En masse”?
To be honest, I previously auditioned one of the neo drivers in a Cube Audio enclosure and was completely underwhelmed…and that was with more than one of my amps and the sellers.
Since I was also able to get a great deal on these drivers I decided to give them another shot…but my intention is to build them into open baffles with Acoustic Elegance Dipole as bass support to free them of that burden and hopefully get them to truly sing the midrange and up.
To be honest, I previously auditioned one of the neo drivers in a Cube Audio enclosure and was completely underwhelmed…and that was with more than one of my amps and the sellers.
Since I was also able to get a great deal on these drivers I decided to give them another shot…but my intention is to build them into open baffles with Acoustic Elegance Dipole as bass support to free them of that burden and hopefully get them to truly sing the midrange and up.
@chromenuts twinning! They must have had a sale or something which sounds like a Macys thing to do and this is HiFi but who knows…
I did the exact same thing you are doing right there 😆. The Gen Zs call that “rawdogging”.
They sound very good, a bit shouty, rightly so without any enclosure. I spent 3 days figuring out the cabinet design (thanks to ChatGPT O3, it is amazing doing maths and figure out the right best practices).
Then another 2 days, learning CAD and put it into a file, sending to the CNC guy to cut now. Baltic Birch Plywood or Spartan. The front baffle I’m trying to find some Zebrawood Veneer, they are gorgeous.
I did the exact same thing you are doing right there 😆. The Gen Zs call that “rawdogging”.
They sound very good, a bit shouty, rightly so without any enclosure. I spent 3 days figuring out the cabinet design (thanks to ChatGPT O3, it is amazing doing maths and figure out the right best practices).
Then another 2 days, learning CAD and put it into a file, sending to the CNC guy to cut now. Baltic Birch Plywood or Spartan. The front baffle I’m trying to find some Zebrawood Veneer, they are gorgeous.
You are very close to me…I’m in CT.
I actually might be interested in trying them in a ML-TQWT.
Perhaps we could get a “group buy” price from your CNC guy?
If you’d like to discuss it further please PM me.
I actually might be interested in trying them in a ML-TQWT.
Perhaps we could get a “group buy” price from your CNC guy?
If you’d like to discuss it further please PM me.
Both Johnny & Forever’s layouts are pretty standard for a folded Voigt.
But you have to model it. HornResp is the current goto. Stuffing it into a random box is more likely to not end well as to be OK.
Start by seeing how it does sealed. vas?
Once you have a hole in the box it becomes at least an ML-TL.
dave
But you have to model it. HornResp is the current goto. Stuffing it into a random box is more likely to not end well as to be OK.
Start by seeing how it does sealed. vas?
Once you have a hole in the box it becomes at least an ML-TL.
dave
Shame we don’t have any Discounts on Cube Audio drivers in Australia!
Strangely my first boxes using the SONIDO 10 inch Field Coil drivers was just a ported 25mm thick plywood box to SONIDO’s design and they were Surprisingly good, especially as the drivers had zero hours on them!
Just 2 pillows inside for stuffing in each box!!
Strangely my first boxes using the SONIDO 10 inch Field Coil drivers was just a ported 25mm thick plywood box to SONIDO’s design and they were Surprisingly good, especially as the drivers had zero hours on them!
Just 2 pillows inside for stuffing in each box!!
If it would be helpful in vetting the OPs design, I do have a DATS V3 that I could take measurements of my F10 with.
I have played with hornresp to try and model some simple front horns, but I don’t have the skills and understanding to model something like this.
@JohnnyDee
I have a pair of SWR250 FC I had Istvan make me with 16 Ohm voice coils. Very nice drivers. It would be interesting to try them and the Cube drivers in the same enclosure.
I have played with hornresp to try and model some simple front horns, but I don’t have the skills and understanding to model something like this.
@JohnnyDee
I have a pair of SWR250 FC I had Istvan make me with 16 Ohm voice coils. Very nice drivers. It would be interesting to try them and the Cube drivers in the same enclosure.
Indeed!
Cube and some other brands price themselves up a fair bit… you would hope for Big things??
Cube and some other brands price themselves up a fair bit… you would hope for Big things??
