For the last 5 years I have been harvesting Sony TC500/500a tape decks for speakers and transformers. I think the time has come to create something from the parts I have accumulated. I have plenty of ideas I would like to explore for the transformers, but I currently have 8 pairs (16 speakers) of Coral holey basket drivers and am wondering what those with far greater knowledge than me would do with them, given the chance. I have looked over the numerous past postings, but could not really find an example of anyone with a large number of drivers. I can certainly produce multiple different speakers, each using one, or two, pairs, but wondered if that would be a waste of a rare opportunity. Thank you in advance.
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Hope you could fully utilize the spare parts and so the souls of the TC500As will rest in peace. 😉
These are quite musically engaging, tiny yet big sounding drivers, quite astonishing 🙂
Don't put them in a box...they will lose the magic as we experienced, against our big open baffles. Having that said, would love to try them on these boxes below, perhaps you could consider... no, they likely don't work well in a line array structure given their relatively large size, and many units required to form a practical line...I thought there was a guy from Brookyln NY that posted his four Holey arrays here before.
Btw, for the musically engaging experience, with our limited exposure, few notches above that would be the Altec 755C, which is about 75% of an Altec 755A.... and WE...further up...don't know what's in between... (haven't A/B our Flat 5 II yet)
1) double bass by hm
hm double bass horn - mini trombone
2) Silbatone 755A box
JE Labs: A visit to J-Rob's and the Silbatone 755A box by Dr. Stefano Bae
3) Mini Karlsonator
Mini Karlsonator (0.53X) with Dual TC9FDs
4) mini OB with assisting woofer
Have fun! 😉
These are quite musically engaging, tiny yet big sounding drivers, quite astonishing 🙂
Don't put them in a box...they will lose the magic as we experienced, against our big open baffles. Having that said, would love to try them on these boxes below, perhaps you could consider... no, they likely don't work well in a line array structure given their relatively large size, and many units required to form a practical line...I thought there was a guy from Brookyln NY that posted his four Holey arrays here before.
Btw, for the musically engaging experience, with our limited exposure, few notches above that would be the Altec 755C, which is about 75% of an Altec 755A.... and WE...further up...don't know what's in between... (haven't A/B our Flat 5 II yet)
1) double bass by hm
hm double bass horn - mini trombone
2) Silbatone 755A box
JE Labs: A visit to J-Rob's and the Silbatone 755A box by Dr. Stefano Bae
3) Mini Karlsonator
Mini Karlsonator (0.53X) with Dual TC9FDs
4) mini OB with assisting woofer
Have fun! 😉
Thank you very much for such a detailed answer. Especially your opinion that they would not be suitable for some sort of an array. I had wondered if that was an option. I certainly intend to do justice by the Sonys that gave their all.
Those Tapecorders are loaded with good parts. Lots of opportunities for SE 6V6/EL84 class amplifiers.
With the Holey Baskets, you first need to figure out if any of them are really midTweeters because the surround on these have a tendency to stiffen up. 15 years f trying to figure out hoe to fix that have not produced any results. Best done by measuring them.
Also given the age the parameters are likely all over the place.
These drivers tend to be so rare that very few people every have more than a couple pairs.
We have played with singles or pairs, for as many as you have some creativity,
We found Aiko to get the most out of a single driver, but given a suitble driver would work in Frugel-Horn Mk3 (because it is tuneable, more agjustability to match the specific driver, and Twin FH3. With data they could work in miniTower and have been successfully put into mSize Fonken.
Knowing how much they have aged
If the surrounds have stuiffened they need bass help, Cal did a box doing such (plus a superTweeter) in an OB mid-style thing. I have built a few OBs and am not a big fan.
Pictures?
dave
With the Holey Baskets, you first need to figure out if any of them are really midTweeters because the surround on these have a tendency to stiffen up. 15 years f trying to figure out hoe to fix that have not produced any results. Best done by measuring them.
Also given the age the parameters are likely all over the place.
These drivers tend to be so rare that very few people every have more than a couple pairs.
We have played with singles or pairs, for as many as you have some creativity,
We found Aiko to get the most out of a single driver, but given a suitble driver would work in Frugel-Horn Mk3 (because it is tuneable, more agjustability to match the specific driver, and Twin FH3. With data they could work in miniTower and have been successfully put into mSize Fonken.
Knowing how much they have aged
If the surrounds have stuiffened they need bass help, Cal did a box doing such (plus a superTweeter) in an OB mid-style thing. I have built a few OBs and am not a big fan.
Pictures?
dave
It certainly sounds like the next step is to measure the parameters for each one and group them. I recently purchased a DATS from Parts-Express so I will put it to work. I did look at the tread where the use of multiple drivers was discussed, but the photos seemed to be lost.
I have recalled that I have a Madisound BK-12m cabinet with a different driver in it. I was thinking that might be worth a try. I would be very interested in any options.
Again thank you for taking the time to respond. It is much appreciated. I grew up in Victoria, and had my first experiences with hifi at Sound Hounds around 1980.
I have recalled that I have a Madisound BK-12m cabinet with a different driver in it. I was thinking that might be worth a try. I would be very interested in any options.
Again thank you for taking the time to respond. It is much appreciated. I grew up in Victoria, and had my first experiences with hifi at Sound Hounds around 1980.
I was at Sound Hounds 1976-1981, so a good chance we have met.
DATS will be fine for getting a handle on matching, T/S data will not necessarily be overly useful.
It is worth a try in the BK-12m. Scott designed it specifically for FE126, but it is worth trying.
Using a pair of fingers carefully press down on the cones, pick the pair that move the most easily.
dave
DATS will be fine for getting a handle on matching, T/S data will not necessarily be overly useful.
It is worth a try in the BK-12m. Scott designed it specifically for FE126, but it is worth trying.
Using a pair of fingers carefully press down on the cones, pick the pair that move the most easily.
dave
Thank you. Other than mechanically checking stiffness, are there any other parameters you would focus on for matching?
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Expect each one to be a bit different. I have measured, for instance, Fs from 80 to 150 Hz, even higher on a few.
dave
dave
@planet10 This is a bit of a well-worn topic (enclosures for Holey Basket drivers), but I have a pair in the mail arriving today...opinions are a little varied on best enclosures for them. Would it be worth my while taking something made for the FE103a or the FE103 Sol and using it for them? Was thinking the mFonken might be a one I'd try...
They seem it good shape. I chucked them in the Baby Labs for the FF105WK just to verify if they are functioning. Bass-light, but detailed.
Surrounds seem to have plenty of flex, no voice coil rubbing.
Hi
I’ve always wanted to hear a pair of these magical Coral Holey Baskets Drivers.
@jschroed
If there is a chance I could borrow a pair ? That would be awesome, I know it’s a long shot but hey it’s worth a try. They would be operated above 250Hz on an open baffle with bass support. Please PM me if interested.
Thanks
Eric
I’ve always wanted to hear a pair of these magical Coral Holey Baskets Drivers.
@jschroed
If there is a chance I could borrow a pair ? That would be awesome, I know it’s a long shot but hey it’s worth a try. They would be operated above 250Hz on an open baffle with bass support. Please PM me if interested.
Thanks
Eric
Does anyone have the size of Coral Holey Basket 4" full range speaker unit? I want them to cut holes for my full range speaker, thanks!
Just received Coral Holey Baskets. My original plan was to place them on small open baffle and use as desktop speakers. However, after hooking them up without any baffles, I am realizing they will need fairly large baffles to have useful bass, even to compete with my 6.5" two-way bookshelves I have as my desktop speakers currently.
I was moving my head closer and closer to the Corals and found the sound exceptional when my head was right in between them with ears maybe 1" away from the drivers. The sound reminds me of AKG K1000 "earspeakers" I used to have! Anyone tried making earspeaker type headphones out of Corals before?
I was moving my head closer and closer to the Corals and found the sound exceptional when my head was right in between them with ears maybe 1" away from the drivers. The sound reminds me of AKG K1000 "earspeakers" I used to have! Anyone tried making earspeaker type headphones out of Corals before?
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