I finished putting together a system for equalizing my DML speakers, using an Raspberry Pi running camilladsp and while evaluating it I noticed a problem. The speakers were constantly emitting a low-level high frequency sound. I had previously listened to my analog electronics + DMLs separately and knew they were OK so suspected some issue with the digital side.
But nothing I tried eliminated that annoying sound.....until I unplugged the computer monitor connected to the Rpi. Silence ensued. Simply turning the monitor "off" didn't do it. I'm guessing that even when the monitor is turned off via the power button, it really is NOT completely powered-off. It's possible that the only thing that's actually turned off is the backlight. I figured out it was the monitor when I moved its power cable away from the other system cables and the noise level decreased. Additional experiments gave me the final solution.
I knew that the old-style CRT monitors can emit all sorts of EMI but hadn't considered the possibility that an LCD style monitor could, too. In retrospect that's not too surprising because the thin-film transistors associated with every single pixel on the monitor screen are switching off and on. Then there's the inevitable switching power supply inside the monitor as well.....
It won't be too difficult to fix this. I have a spare switched power strip I can use to separately turn the monitor off when I'm actually listening to music. It will add to the clutter a bit but I need to clean up the wiring anyway.
But nothing I tried eliminated that annoying sound.....until I unplugged the computer monitor connected to the Rpi. Silence ensued. Simply turning the monitor "off" didn't do it. I'm guessing that even when the monitor is turned off via the power button, it really is NOT completely powered-off. It's possible that the only thing that's actually turned off is the backlight. I figured out it was the monitor when I moved its power cable away from the other system cables and the noise level decreased. Additional experiments gave me the final solution.
I knew that the old-style CRT monitors can emit all sorts of EMI but hadn't considered the possibility that an LCD style monitor could, too. In retrospect that's not too surprising because the thin-film transistors associated with every single pixel on the monitor screen are switching off and on. Then there's the inevitable switching power supply inside the monitor as well.....
It won't be too difficult to fix this. I have a spare switched power strip I can use to separately turn the monitor off when I'm actually listening to music. It will add to the clutter a bit but I need to clean up the wiring anyway.
Try a USB isolator that uses an external power supply.
All switching supplies emit some level of noise that can get into the common ground path. The "housekeeping" portions are always alive, so you're right in that many things never really turn off. Some only turn off displays and lights and don't respond to button presses except power.
All switching supplies emit some level of noise that can get into the common ground path. The "housekeeping" portions are always alive, so you're right in that many things never really turn off. Some only turn off displays and lights and don't respond to button presses except power.
Try earthing the display shield, just check if the monitor is really connected to Earth, some strips or wires may not be conducting.
And the monitor cable may lack Earth continuity, check that also.
In my house, the CCTV recorder, its PSU, and the WiFi are on the same outlet box, but the monitor stays off mains unless needed.
I made a 4 switch 4 outlet switch box, wall mounted. That uses heavier duty switches and sockets in comparison to power strips.
And the monitor cable may lack Earth continuity, check that also.
In my house, the CCTV recorder, its PSU, and the WiFi are on the same outlet box, but the monitor stays off mains unless needed.
I made a 4 switch 4 outlet switch box, wall mounted. That uses heavier duty switches and sockets in comparison to power strips.
I meant metal screen frame of the LCD should be connected to Earth.
Might be difficult to open the covers without minor damage.
Might be difficult to open the covers without minor damage.
The line filter I had lying around solved my problem. Apparently it was being injected into the AC line.
I don't have any earth grounds except through the monitor's 3-prong plug. According to Wikipedia class II isolation has no connection to earth ground so no loop there. And my RPI's wall-wart is just a 2-prong, confirming it has no earth ground connection.My 2 cents a ground loop through the monitor video cable -> power cable (since the RPi power supply is class II isolation). Upon unplugging the monitor the ground loop is broken.
@Mark'51 : what is your audio chain with regard to ground loops via protection-earth wires?
- Home
- Source & Line
- PC Based
- Computer monitor injecting noise into audio system