im intending to build a class d sub since it is very efficient... i cudnt care less abt the quailty becuz is for blasting.....
i want about 200w...
can anyone shed so light? schematics?
i want about 200w...
can anyone shed so light? schematics?
It is clear that you haven't searched the forums...It is a regularly discussed topic...
However, the likes of Tripath, Zetex, TI all do chips. The Zetex one is the ZXCD1000 (http://www.zetex.co.uk)
Strictly speaking, the Tripath in not Class D at all, it's called a class T. I believe the differences are that it has variable sample rate or something. It also uses predictive DSP algorithms etc etc. I challenge you to find a review of an amp using the Tripath that doesn't get a good write up. I know you're not interested in that...but there you go - a bonus. Find those at http://www.tripath.com.
Obviously TI is at http://www.ti.com...Do a search on their website.
Also Maxim may do a Class D driver...I know they do class D amplifiers for headphones but you may be able to get the PWM output...http://www.maxim-ic.com.
Like I said before, search the forums, there is loads. But for now, I hope that helps,
Gaz
However, the likes of Tripath, Zetex, TI all do chips. The Zetex one is the ZXCD1000 (http://www.zetex.co.uk)
Strictly speaking, the Tripath in not Class D at all, it's called a class T. I believe the differences are that it has variable sample rate or something. It also uses predictive DSP algorithms etc etc. I challenge you to find a review of an amp using the Tripath that doesn't get a good write up. I know you're not interested in that...but there you go - a bonus. Find those at http://www.tripath.com.
Obviously TI is at http://www.ti.com...Do a search on their website.
Also Maxim may do a Class D driver...I know they do class D amplifiers for headphones but you may be able to get the PWM output...http://www.maxim-ic.com.
Like I said before, search the forums, there is loads. But for now, I hope that helps,
Gaz
Heres an inexpensive 300 watt sub amp from Rod Elliott. Its not class D but you may want to consider it.
http://sound.westhost.com/project68.htm
He sells the PCB too.
happy hunting🙂
http://sound.westhost.com/project68.htm
He sells the PCB too.
happy hunting🙂
There is a German manufacturer selling class-d plate amps for subwoofers. I can't remember which one but I will try to find out. Maybe there are others as well.
Regards
Charles
BTW: Class-T is uses delta sigma modulation.
Regards
Charles
BTW: Class-T is uses delta sigma modulation.
thx man...
but...
im looking for thoses that you can put together....
those that use mosfets wud be good....
IGBT is find...
my top piority is effiecentcy
but...
im looking for thoses that you can put together....
those that use mosfets wud be good....
IGBT is find...
my top piority is effiecentcy
The LM4651 can drive mosfets up to 170W.
National semiconductor recommends to use it with the LM4652 (integrated power mosfets).
It´s all in one datasheet.(LM4651)
Jens
National semiconductor recommends to use it with the LM4652 (integrated power mosfets).
It´s all in one datasheet.(LM4651)
Jens
is it not possible to build a class d sub with normal components?
how come all come in chip form?
how come all come in chip form?
"is it not possible to build a class d sub with normal components?
how come all come in chip form?"
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/AN1042-D.PDF
Linear Technology also has a design for a full bridge amplifier but it looks even more complex.
The voltage balance circuit may be eliminated from the Motorola (ON semiconductor) design if using a non-regulated supply. Use a 40-0-40V 300VA transformer for 200W/4R, 55-0-55V 300VA for 200W/8R, use IRF640/9640 for outputs.
If an input diode clipper (NAD 'soft clip') is used the duty cycle limit switches could be eliminated.
how come all come in chip form?"
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/AN1042-D.PDF
Linear Technology also has a design for a full bridge amplifier but it looks even more complex.
The voltage balance circuit may be eliminated from the Motorola (ON semiconductor) design if using a non-regulated supply. Use a 40-0-40V 300VA transformer for 200W/4R, 55-0-55V 300VA for 200W/8R, use IRF640/9640 for outputs.
If an input diode clipper (NAD 'soft clip') is used the duty cycle limit switches could be eliminated.
djk wrote:
I like it if an amp can be driven as close to the rails as possible, so I used a different approach on a class-d amp 10 years ago, to overcome latchup during overdrive situations (although you might still use some circuitry to achieve a soft clipping characteristic):
The MOSFET drive-circuit is basically the same as with Motorola AN1042 (though the rest of the circuit is different), but I used a parallel DC-path using a transistor in common base circuit. This has to supply only miliamperes to work properly.
Regards
Charles
If an input diode clipper (NAD 'soft clip') is used the duty cycle limit switches could be eliminated.
I like it if an amp can be driven as close to the rails as possible, so I used a different approach on a class-d amp 10 years ago, to overcome latchup during overdrive situations (although you might still use some circuitry to achieve a soft clipping characteristic):
The MOSFET drive-circuit is basically the same as with Motorola AN1042 (though the rest of the circuit is different), but I used a parallel DC-path using a transistor in common base circuit. This has to supply only miliamperes to work properly.
Regards
Charles
I still like the NAD circuit:
http://www.gmweb.btinternet.co.uk/nad3020pwr.htm
You can get within a fraction of a dB of full power as the clipper follows the supply voltage as it varies. Very simple, inexpensive, low parts count circuit.
The LT1162 full bridge driver IC has built in duty cycle limiting, but is a little expensive at $9 in single lot quantity. See fig.6 p.13
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Linear Tech Web Data/LT1160, LT1162.pdf
http://www.gmweb.btinternet.co.uk/nad3020pwr.htm
You can get within a fraction of a dB of full power as the clipper follows the supply voltage as it varies. Very simple, inexpensive, low parts count circuit.
The LT1162 full bridge driver IC has built in duty cycle limiting, but is a little expensive at $9 in single lot quantity. See fig.6 p.13
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Linear Tech Web Data/LT1160, LT1162.pdf
It is not easy to build a class d from discrete components. Firstly, you need an extremely fast sawtooth or triangle wave. That usually requires an opamp at least. You need a comparator to generate the PWM there's another high speed opamp. After that you need under/over sampling protection etc etc and then you have the discrete output that all the circuits have. In other words you still have to have chips unless you make up discrete opamps...but these are not really in the signal path (apart from the comparator). You shouldn't really take noise into consideration (by comparing discrete/chip) since you are totally dismantling the signal anyway! You will get far better results from an H-bridge driver or dedicated Class D driver...and it'll be a whole lot safer!
Gaz
Gaz
hi hacknet
The subwoofer-modules i meant in an earlier post are made by the German manufacturer RCM Akustik.
They seem to be quite cool (in more than one sense) but they don't come cheap.
The 300 Watt one is about 300 Euros for example.
http://www.rcmakustik.com/eng/rcm_rahmen.htm
look under Products => Detonation => Datasheet
Regards
Charles
The subwoofer-modules i meant in an earlier post are made by the German manufacturer RCM Akustik.
They seem to be quite cool (in more than one sense) but they don't come cheap.
The 300 Watt one is about 300 Euros for example.
http://www.rcmakustik.com/eng/rcm_rahmen.htm
look under Products => Detonation => Datasheet
Regards
Charles
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