ClarityCap MR vs AudynCap True Copper

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While I'm equally skeptical as you of his cap scores which I have written about here, I'm also skeptical of claims he's selling anything but his speaker designs.

Perhaps looking at his commercial website will be useful to you. Caps, coils, resistors, drivers, wire, you name it.

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I also supply individual parts such as loudspeaker drivers, crossover components and accessories from all major (and minor) brands should you decide to build something yourself.
 
in what mr is lush......?, is the fisrt time i heard mr is lush...
in what neutral column fail MR ?
i not heard this lush presentation....quite the contrary
mr is reach and natural jupiter to my taste is clumsy, swollen and scene is little
what model of jupiter you tried ?

I compared Jupiter Copper vs Audyn Copper vs Clarity Mr vs Mundorf SIO. All in same position on RIAA stage output. I could easily live with them all. They were feeding a Pass INT30-a. We are talking flavored of ice cream here and could easily live with any of them(as this is last 5% of sound tweaking). I would also like to point out that unless you have the exact system listed above, your experience may differ greatly. I would consider system synergy as important as your room in overall audio experience, assuming of course you have capable components that measure well.

Edit: I said MR was neutral not lush. Perhaps the Jupiter and Audyn could be compared to a slight rounded square wave, softening the leading edge. Words are difficult and I can barely speak my native tongue properly. You asked for comparison, I have you one. Sorry it was not what you were looking for. Enjoy the process!
 
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I compared Jupiter Copper vs Audyn Copper vs Clarity Mr vs Mundorf SIO. All in same position on RIAA stage output. I could easily live with them all. They were feeding a Pass INT30-a. We are talking flavored of ice cream here and could easily live with any of them(as this is last 5% of sound tweaking). I would also like to point out that unless you have the exact system listed above, your experience may differ greatly. I would consider system synergy as important as your room in overall audio experience, assuming of course you have capable components that measure well.

Edit: I said MR was neutral not lush. Perhaps the Jupiter and Audyn could be compared to a slight rounded square wave, softening the leading edge. Words are difficult and I can barely speak my native tongue properly. You asked for comparison, I have you one. Sorry it was not what you were looking for. Enjoy the process!
oh, ok, thank you🙂
now is more clear situation, i'm agree with you on MR.
i can say that MR in a little more clinical than jupiter
jupiter has more round character, are you agree ?
and the scene of jupiter vs MR ?
i'm also intrested on your opinion on mundorf SIO
 
Yes.
I prefer the soundatage and imaging(industry words) that Jupiter brings to the table when comparing to MR. Which is accurate, I don't know. The RIAA is dominant 2nd in its distortion profile. The INT30-a is dominant 3rd. I think the Jupiter may be doing a little zen with the 3rd order harmonics of the power amp. TT is LP 12.

Edit: SIO is closer to Jupiter than MR.
 
Yes.
I prefer the soundatage and imaging(industry words) that Jupiter brings to the table when comparing to MR. Which is accurate, I don't know. The RIAA is dominant 2nd in its distortion profile. The INT30-a is dominant 3rd. I think the Jupiter may be doing a little zen with the 3rd order harmonics of the power amp. TT is LP 12.

Edit: SIO is closer to Jupiter than MR.
in what jupiter, about your point of view, is preferible over the MR ?

about SIO, you mean that is more rounder than MR ?

in waht deffers Jupiter from SIO ?

thank you and excuse me for all these questions ?😛
 
Perhaps looking at his commercial website will be useful to you. Caps, coils, resistors, drivers, wire, you name it.

I haven't visited his site in quite some time. In fact, since I wrote that paper. I don't recall him selling anything back then. He seemed to be on a par with Troels back then. If he is now, then more power to him. One can only wonder how much of his business has improved since he went 'commercial'?
 
Everyone has different ears, tastes, systems, budgets. If caps have a character they require careful system matching etc.
I only buy foil caps if I'm using ribbons or high end domes. Otherwise Audyn plus are just fine.

Hello Bill,

I have EXTREMELY revealing ribbons and I have been using Jupiter Flat Stacked. They are very nice; no qualms. Before that I had been using REL-CAP,
polystyrene, which are also very nice. But next I want to try the

Audyn True Copper Cap ( Copper Foil )
 
I tend to agree that is it is wise to focus on caps that are in series with signal. Parallel(as in drivers, or for decoupling) tend to be less important.

Not in my experience. All components are important. It's in the circuit- it's in the chain.

Compare some Solen Silvers in a shunt compared to something else...
Makes a difference,
Wolf
 
also if you haven't compared them,. could you describe sound differences ?
i know is very difficcult....

I have not used either of them yet. I have heard speakers with MR's before, and liked what I heard as a system.

I have 6.2uF 630VDC MR's, and 1.0uF Audyn True-Coppers. It's really hard to compare different values. That said- I also have 1.0uF TFTF V-Caps, and will compare them against the Coppers.

Agreed that some caps work better with some drivers and not others, and that some caps don't work well with other cap brands in the circuit. As they come off the shelf, there are differences that sometimes can be discerned. Not every change will warrant a change in sound, but some definitely will.

Later,
Wolf
 
Not in my experience. All components are important. It's in the circuit- it's in the chain.

Compare some Solen Silvers in a shunt compared to something else...
Makes a difference,
Wolf

That was my triage comment. I figure if I am trying to get someone to experience the effects of a quality cap, this is best done in the series position. When talking about extremely expensive caps, I assign them to series positions first, then I work on shunt positions. Same for inductors. Listen to foil vs anything else. It is the last 5%, but it makes a significant difference, IMO. I agree, cap changes have to be considered in the context of overall system. I personally am not hearing what diypass is talking about with the Jupiters. Anyone is more than welcome to ha e a listen if they are in NC.

FWIW, Europe Audio has foils Inductors for about half the price you can get them in the states.
 
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