Qts is less than that used in the SXD and a larger Xmax, Fs lower... so I thought it would be ok. For about $10 each with the summer sale, seemed like a good candidate...
Yeah, would love to use the RS225 but if I go with 5 pairs, that's 20 drivers, or nearly $2000. 20 of the CES driver would be $200...
Yeah, would love to use the RS225 but if I go with 5 pairs, that's 20 drivers, or nearly $2000. 20 of the CES driver would be $200...
I didn't know you wanted 5 pairs. Then, I suggest you buy a few extras... just to future-proof your design a bit. 🙂
I'd still go with a proven design that would future proof my builds. I really like SBA. They make great drivers. Like this one, that is very reasonably priced:
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...sb20pfcr30-8-8-paper-cone-woofer-8-ohm-round/
I'd still go with a proven design that would future proof my builds. I really like SBA. They make great drivers. Like this one, that is very reasonably priced:
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...sb20pfcr30-8-8-paper-cone-woofer-8-ohm-round/
This would be a good choice Perceval. Bought 16 pcs to test. Prelim test on 1 woofer, sound very clear which is good news for me.
Brand is ACR big name in Indo for Pro Audio. Dirt cheap & incase your wondering they are the manufacturer behind SB Acoustics.
Hopefully you guys can find a source of supply at your end to test.
Cheers
Brand is ACR big name in Indo for Pro Audio. Dirt cheap & incase your wondering they are the manufacturer behind SB Acoustics.
Hopefully you guys can find a source of supply at your end to test.
Cheers
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I'm not too far being in Taiwan. 🙂
Their FR looks a lot like most SBA FR too. Makes sense that they are the same manufacture.
There was a rumor that the good stuff from Dayton was coming from Usher in Taiwan. I called them multiple times, but they never acknowledged it. Too bad. I would've loved to pick some drivers right off the assembly line! 🙂
I'm not too far being in Taiwan. 🙂
Their FR looks a lot like most SBA FR too. Makes sense that they are the same manufacture.
There was a rumor that the good stuff from Dayton was coming from Usher in Taiwan. I called them multiple times, but they never acknowledged it. Too bad. I would've loved to pick some drivers right off the assembly line! 🙂
I didn't know you wanted 5 pairs. Then, I suggest you buy a few extras... just to future-proof your design a bit. 🙂
I'd still go with a proven design that would future proof my builds. I really like SBA. They make great drivers. Like this one, that is very reasonably priced:
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...sb20pfcr30-8-8-paper-cone-woofer-8-ohm-round/
Looked at that one but the plastic turned me off...
You asking about the ACR woofers ? They look like foam but feels rubbery unlike foam surrounds. From info woofer cone is waterpoof so I assumeNice drivers. Are those foam or cloth surrounds?
that the surrounds could be a hybrid foam rubber type, that is if there's such a material. lol Anyway thery're so so cheap buying more to keep as spare
won't even hurt the pocket, $9 a pc including shipping to me
As X said, it's not cheap plastic stuff. It feels nice and sturdy. Indeed, less resonance than the cheap stamped steel woofers. One could always add butyl rubber to the stamped steel ones to kill those resonances.Looked at that one but the plastic turned me off...
Here's what I am settling on as a compromise between the expensive RS225 and the super budget GRS poly cone:
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/295-430--dayton-audio-ds215-8-specifications.pdf
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/295-430--dayton-audio-ds215-8-specifications.pdf
Has anyone here played around with SLOB subwoofers? Tomorrow a kind DIYer is gifting me 4 SD270A-88's, and I was thinking they would be perfect for SLOB subs. I know there are ripole subwoofers, which are similar. As far as I can tell the only thing that keeps X's SLOB's from being ripoles is that the back waves aren't slot loaded as well? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept of ripoles
I'd start off just making one with the 4 I'm getting for free, but if it works out the idea would be to make another, and use them as bases for a modular full range speaker pair (DSP, at least for the subs)
I'd start off just making one with the 4 I'm getting for free, but if it works out the idea would be to make another, and use them as bases for a modular full range speaker pair (DSP, at least for the subs)
What driver characteristics are you using to select drivers for slot loading?This has always been one of my favorite prototypes built in cardboard or foamcore. It was so good I made a note to myself to revisit it one day in wood. It was one of those designs that has such a clear midrange thanks to being an open baffle and deep bass that had some punch when you are nearby but doesn’t compress the room. I have recently been working with a local cabinet maker to help me realize the the next generation in wood. I’m increasing the woofers to 8x 6.5in per speaker, and making it a 3 way with a high sensitivity midbass (5FE100 or 6FE100) and a planar dipole tweeter (GRS) with a waveguide. The woofers are basic polycone or papercone low cost units for now. Fancy ones are not needed as I recall how good they sounded with $5 blowout woofers.
The construction will use mostly 3/4in BB ply for the baffle and 1/2in BB ply for the U-wings and stacked 3/4in MDF for the woofer manifold chamber. The 2-way part will be on a separate board that is interchangeable so that I can test out various different drivers on top easily. I plan to develop a passive crossover.
Construction is almost completed and I should have the speaker in hand in a few days. Right now it is still at the workshop. It’s looking very nice thanks to the superb skills of my cabinet maker, Doug. A big hats off to you Doug!
Woofer manifold made from stacked MDF:
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Manifolds glued to baffle:
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Preparing to install the wings:View attachment 1035595
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Baffles with cutouts for replaceable 2-way top driver plates:
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Detail of how baffle plates are held in place from the back:
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Woofers are rear mounted and tweeter waveguide is front mounted. Woofer bezels are rather industrial “pro audio” so look better rear mounted. Also, the non-circular bezels would have made front flush mount rebates a real pain. A round over on the front lip is used to provide a smoother look and reduce diffraction to the extent possible:
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Will probably use some bracing on the wings:
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This is going to be a fun speaker to develop the crossover for.
Look for smooth bandwidth up through 1kHz, good sensitivity, decent Xmax, as low Fs as possible, 6.5in to 8in and low price to make it economical since you need 16 of them.
Hello.
Long-time lurker into this thread, now looking to build a version of these but with a 8PE21 midrange and TPL-150 as tweeter. The 8PE21 in a 12" baffle starts dropping abruptly at 280Hz and know of a user crossing it at 250Hz with a 16" baffle.
I believe I could use either 8x 6.5" woofers like XSD for a xo up to 420Hz or 6x 8" woofers for a xo around 350Hz. It seems 350Hz would fit the 8PE21, so I´m wondering about pros/cons of going with 6.5" vs 8" woofers.
Using GRS Poly Cone Rubber line as examples, comparing frequency responses of 6PR-8 vs GRS 8PR-8, the former starts dropping at 80Hz while the latter does so around 60Hz. I have sealed subs to use below the SLOB yet I guess reaching lower is generally better. 16x 6PR-8 would cost $215 vs $180 for 12x 8PR-8, so price-wise is a tie.
Are there benefits to the 6.5" that I´m not realizing or should I just go with 8 inchers?
Long-time lurker into this thread, now looking to build a version of these but with a 8PE21 midrange and TPL-150 as tweeter. The 8PE21 in a 12" baffle starts dropping abruptly at 280Hz and know of a user crossing it at 250Hz with a 16" baffle.
I believe I could use either 8x 6.5" woofers like XSD for a xo up to 420Hz or 6x 8" woofers for a xo around 350Hz. It seems 350Hz would fit the 8PE21, so I´m wondering about pros/cons of going with 6.5" vs 8" woofers.
Using GRS Poly Cone Rubber line as examples, comparing frequency responses of 6PR-8 vs GRS 8PR-8, the former starts dropping at 80Hz while the latter does so around 60Hz. I have sealed subs to use below the SLOB yet I guess reaching lower is generally better. 16x 6PR-8 would cost $215 vs $180 for 12x 8PR-8, so price-wise is a tie.
Are there benefits to the 6.5" that I´m not realizing or should I just go with 8 inchers?
I was wondering if you went ahead with these drivers and how was your experience/their performance?Here's what I am settling on as a compromise between the expensive RS225 and the super budget GRS poly cone:
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/295-430--dayton-audio-ds215-8-specifications.pdf
I haven't gotten to it yet- been busy with rebuilding a set of Acoustats, dealing with family health issues overseas, etc. Hope to later this summer/fall....
@cab
Sorry to read about the family health issues overseas. I can relate to those.
Did you get the drivers? I´m curious about their build, especially the basket that seems to be stamped steel that make me wonder about resonances, much like I wonder about the GRS 8PR but DS215 are $54 each vs $15 for each 8PR.
Sorry to read about the family health issues overseas. I can relate to those.
Did you get the drivers? I´m curious about their build, especially the basket that seems to be stamped steel that make me wonder about resonances, much like I wonder about the GRS 8PR but DS215 are $54 each vs $15 for each 8PR.
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