CFA Topology Audio Amplifiers

I simmed it - the gain/ frequency behavior is similar to a CFA and the peak current into the TIS is not limited by a current source as in a VFA. In my book this makes it a CFA.

We have some confusion here. This is AD8055 very early H-bridge op-amp, almost nothing more than PMA's schematic. 1400V/us. BW does the VFA thing, a little peaking falsely extends 0dB number just a little.
 

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Simple is 10 active devices (IPS).
"embellished" is 14-16 devices.

More than this , nobody will build it. 🙄
PS - that is my attraction to CFA , I can give PPM with <14 semi's !
Edit - or even 8 ... VSSA with hawksford -32 ppm 4R 120 V p-p

OS
 
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We have some confusion here. This is AD8055 very early H-bridge op-amp, almost nothing more than PMA's schematic. 1400V/us. BW does the VFA thing, a little peaking falsely extends 0dB number just a little.

Thanks for posting this up.

I've just redone my sims. For gain stepped from 10dB through 31.5 dB the -3dB CLG moves from ~575 kHz to 350 kHz with the ~575 kHz remaining essentially constant from 10 dB through 25 dB CLG which I would equate with the gain sweet spot often referred to in CFA application notes. This is with the bridge tie resistor set to 100 Ohms.

With the tie resistor set to 10 Ohms the -3 dB CLG drops from 575 kHz to 520 kHz over the same range. I would conclude that the BW is independent of the gain with these results.

If I MC the amp, then I get classic VFA behavior. At the low gain range end the -3 dB is at 530 kHz while at 31 dB CLG the -3 dB BW is 155 kHz

It was the results above that lead me to categorize the H input as CFA.

I will put my plots up later today (I printed them out and manualy marked the -3dB intercept points up - the photos are somewhere in the cloud waiting to drop into my mail box . . . )
 
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sajti,
I think my Hungarian ancestors would say Jeez, don't you think that is a bit excessive! Most people want a minimum of devices and the general feeling seems to be less devices sound better even if you can get to virtually zero ppm distortion with that many devices.
 
sajti,
I think my Hungarian ancestors would say Jeez, don't you think that is a bit excessive! Most people want a minimum of devices and the general feeling seems to be less devices sound better even if you can get to virtually zero ppm distortion with that many devices.

Yeah, it's a bit overkill, but most of the transisitors are BC550C/560C, so they are quite cheap. This driver stage contains 2 individually feedbacked amplifier, to reduce the back EMF. This is not my idea, as Marantz use same amount of devices in their Reference series.

Sajti
 
sajti,
I think my Hungarian ancestors would say Jeez, don't you think that is a bit excessive! Most people want a minimum of devices and the general feeling seems to be less devices sound better even if you can get to virtually zero ppm distortion with that many devices.

Then , there is the support-troubleshooting factor. With 10-14 devices ,
only a few test points to go through when a builder has a problem or
gets something wrong.

30-50 may be good for a commercial module or something that can
be reworked at the factory .... but not DIY ?
This is the "attraction factor" for the Pass designs.

OS