Human
Not sure. The Fostex 206E has a low total q of .18. Res freq similar, as is xmax...both more than Lowther.
All I know...it works!
You could sim it.
Throat: 290mm x 44mm
Mouth: 290mm x 700mm
Horn length: 3000mm
Regards,
Andrew.
Not sure. The Fostex 206E has a low total q of .18. Res freq similar, as is xmax...both more than Lowther.
All I know...it works!
You could sim it.
Throat: 290mm x 44mm
Mouth: 290mm x 700mm
Horn length: 3000mm
Regards,
Andrew.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
This still does not look like a Visaton B200 to me.
I think this is the picture Andrew had in mind:
http://www.creationaudio.com.au/library/chorn/pic6.jpg
Brgds,
Brian
http://www.creationaudio.com.au/library/chorn/pic6.jpg
Brgds,
Brian
atilsley said:Fostex 206E has a low total q of .18
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1886979#post1886979
dave
Brian, thanks.
Michael, sorry. I didn't elise I'd swapped the DX3's out and put the Visaton's in.....
Dave, thanks.
Michael, sorry. I didn't elise I'd swapped the DX3's out and put the Visaton's in.....
Dave, thanks.
Hello,
"the bass response of the Visaton is amazing"
the might come by a bass peak because the B200 is no Basshorn driver,
did you make a measurement or a simulation?
i never got a good basshorn simu that i will built.
what flare rate do you use by construction?
"the bass response of the Visaton is amazing"
the might come by a bass peak because the B200 is no Basshorn driver,
did you make a measurement or a simulation?
i never got a good basshorn simu that i will built.
what flare rate do you use by construction?
HM, I did not do a sim prior to building. I used basic principles of horn design and tuned to my ear. I've built a number of exotic horns...but I know this...the Visaton works.
I'm happy to trade off some of the highs for an improved bass over the Lowthers. Saving $$'s only make is sweeter.
People can sim all they like...but the proof is in the listening....which I just did tonight, after plugging my DVD into my 300B SET amp and enjoyed a 90-minute Los Lobos live concert on a big Plasma, with the audio running through the C-Horns. Love it....
I'm happy to trade off some of the highs for an improved bass over the Lowthers. Saving $$'s only make is sweeter.
People can sim all they like...but the proof is in the listening....which I just did tonight, after plugging my DVD into my 300B SET amp and enjoyed a 90-minute Los Lobos live concert on a big Plasma, with the audio running through the C-Horns. Love it....
Hello,
may be you don´t know basics of driver needed Ts parameter,
better make a measurement or simu,
which flare rate you use?
Did you ever made measurements of any horn?
show us, i would like to see the IMP.
may be you don´t know basics of driver needed Ts parameter,
better make a measurement or simu,
which flare rate you use?
Did you ever made measurements of any horn?
show us, i would like to see the IMP.
HM, the C-Horn is a commercial product, so I'm not at liberty to disclose more than what I already have.
The other horns I have built that are in the public domain are the Big Fun, the Medallion II, the Fostex BK16 and BK20....plus various large Tannoy vintage horns...GRF etc.
I have also built a variation of the BK20 using my own modded ideas to test throat sizing, curved horn paths etc.
I have also built (and am licensed) to build Jim Carfrae's Little Big Horn...this uses a tractrix 2.0m horn path. His drawings are not public.
I have also done a little work with David D on a Curvy Bruce horn.
Others are well into sims and models...where I tend to get on and build samples...which just happened to have worked out well. Sorry if this radical and risk-taking approach may not be to your liking.
Kind Regards.
Andrew.
The other horns I have built that are in the public domain are the Big Fun, the Medallion II, the Fostex BK16 and BK20....plus various large Tannoy vintage horns...GRF etc.
I have also built a variation of the BK20 using my own modded ideas to test throat sizing, curved horn paths etc.
I have also built (and am licensed) to build Jim Carfrae's Little Big Horn...this uses a tractrix 2.0m horn path. His drawings are not public.
I have also done a little work with David D on a Curvy Bruce horn.
Others are well into sims and models...where I tend to get on and build samples...which just happened to have worked out well. Sorry if this radical and risk-taking approach may not be to your liking.
Kind Regards.
Andrew.
Hello Human bin,
the RDH20 is a double horn,
the B200 horn is no real bass horn if you see inside,
may be you read about what in the middle:
http://www.hm-moreart.de/11.htm
atilsley,
commercial, than you have not post it here its DIY,
commercial, and you don´t know the flare rate,
and no measurement at all?
poor customers.
the RDH20 is a double horn,
the B200 horn is no real bass horn if you see inside,
may be you read about what in the middle:
http://www.hm-moreart.de/11.htm
atilsley,
commercial, than you have not post it here its DIY,
commercial, and you don´t know the flare rate,
and no measurement at all?
poor customers.
hm said:Hello Human bin,
the RDH20 is a double horn,
the B200 horn is no real bass horn if you see inside,
may be you read about what in the middle:
http://www.hm-moreart.de/11.htm
atilsley,
commercial, than you have not post it here its DIY,
commercial, and you don´t know the flare rate,
and no measurement at all?
poor customers.
I think you misunderstand Andrew, what he means is that the designs he makes are done in agreement (I suppose the word license comes to mind) and thus allowed to make those designs. He should then not disclose. But the work that you insists needs done has already been done by Jim Carfrae etc.
But Andrew will supply them as DIY kits in highly customised form. So there is a definite DIY component here and I for one do not mind showing us what he does.
Re horns, I have limited experience as I do other kinds of designs. But I have had this discussion with Andrew that I suspected that some drivers, especially Lowthers, are too over-damped, even for horns - their very Low Qe is what gives them such high efficiency (and sensitivity) but also can act as a brake at LF. But since I had a pair of B200 and had an opportunity letting Andrew try them in horns, why not? I heard them in one of his horns and liked what I heard, in which case I suspect others will as well.
Re measurements, these can be arranged in time (I have the necessary facilities right here) and perhaps doing it with the Visatons in the C-Horns would be a good idea and also instructive. But in the meantime we can listen and enjoy them. The rest is academic
Joe R.
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