Jean-Paul, I spent a fraction on it. No way I'd shell out that kind of money 🙂
I ordered some of those caps from Mouser, and will attempt the replacement first. Will check the diodes also.
Thank you!
I ordered some of those caps from Mouser, and will attempt the replacement first. Will check the diodes also.
Thank you!
You haven't answered which brand they are. If they are famous Wong Shu brand then maybe it is a good idea to replace all of them. Small number, small cost, 1 x shipping fee, better reliability.
You haven't answered which brand they are. If they are famous Wong Shu brand then maybe it is a good idea to replace all of them. Small number, small cost, 1 x shipping fee, better reliability.
The Panasonic brand. I ordered the exact part number you mentioned. Unless I'm misunderstanding your question?
The one that is now in it probably causing the trouble!
Now there are only a handful of electrolytic caps in that device so replacing that handful when of suspected quality is looking forward. BTW did you the the error in post #15 in my device? Give and take, mr. Wilson.
Now there are only a handful of electrolytic caps in that device so replacing that handful when of suspected quality is looking forward. BTW did you the the error in post #15 in my device? Give and take, mr. Wilson.
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Ah, that one. I don't recall, and it won't be until later in the week that I'll be able to take another look at it. I'll let you know. There's only one such cap on that PCB.
See your own picture and discover caps at the front....AND at the left side....reread my post and think what is best practice IF they are Wong Shu.
I meant there's only one of the type I'm about to replace. Did you mean to see what the other caps are, and replace them as well?
Mmmm difficult for anglosaxon people. Just suppose that 47 µF is kaputt. First thing to check is value and what brand it is but no reply (important parameter). Now if that cap is crappy ultra low cost quality and the others are too then maybe it is a good idea to replace them all for known good caps. Not "least effort/cheap" but quality/longevity.
Slogan:"open once, enjoy longer" or the like. OOEL yeah!
Slogan:"open once, enjoy longer" or the like. OOEL yeah!
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I'll happily replace all, and let you know the brand. It's just that I'm no longer physically by the unit, and won't be until later this week... so all goes by memory/photos that I posted yesterday. I can't see the brand from those photos.
What he means is change all the diodes in the bridge with good quality parts.
And all the electrolytic caps in the entire unit, with good Japanese or European capacitors. 105 degree long life unit types intended for this kind of use.
Panasonic, Elna, Nichicon, Nippon Con-Chemie, Rubycon, Taicon (Taiwan), Wilma. Sprague, Vishay...all are reputed.
Also, this is a tap changer type unit, with triacs doing the switching?
It tries to control the input or output to give a steady output voltage?
Then please post photos of those, and the nameplate of the unit.
That part may also need modification.
And all the electrolytic caps in the entire unit, with good Japanese or European capacitors. 105 degree long life unit types intended for this kind of use.
Panasonic, Elna, Nichicon, Nippon Con-Chemie, Rubycon, Taicon (Taiwan), Wilma. Sprague, Vishay...all are reputed.
Also, this is a tap changer type unit, with triacs doing the switching?
It tries to control the input or output to give a steady output voltage?
Then please post photos of those, and the nameplate of the unit.
That part may also need modification.
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Correct. Do it good straight away or don't do it at all.
Alas, I am but a novice so please go easy on me. I will follow all the good advice I've received in this thread, for which I am very grateful, but replacing all at once seems like a big challenge for me. I'm comfortable changing a thing here and there as long as it fixes the problem, but to completely replace components is above my level.
BTW, I tried finding someone local to come and perform this for me, but wasn't successful—I'd gladly pay someone if I could. And unfortunately, due to recent surgery, I cannot lift this unit and take it to a repair shop (it weighs 90lbs, about 40kg or so).
Aha OK. Then the diodes and a Pana cap. Work with desoldering braid or a pump and as short as possible. If there is someone near you with skills then ask assistance. Don’t make the mistake to solder the diodes or the cap in the wrong direction.
If you remove the small PCB anyone slightly electrical gifted can do it perfectly. If you want it done you can send it to me even. Just the PCB….In any case make pictures before for correct assembly.
If you remove the small PCB anyone slightly electrical gifted can do it perfectly. If you want it done you can send it to me even. Just the PCB….In any case make pictures before for correct assembly.
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Thank you! I'll start with the Panasonic cap. And thank you for offering to help with the PCB; I think the big ocean in between us makes it somewhat complicated, but I will look some more for a repair shop willing to make house calls.
There must be a US member that can do this 5 minute job. Maybe you tell the city you live in and someone is nearby. If unsure better have it done.
I'm in South Florida, Lake Worth, happy to pay if anyone reading this is willing to make a house call.
I know I've written this before, but once again I really, really appreciate all the help that's been provided to me.
As a side note, reason I've posted on diyaudio is because I've been reading a lot about amps here, especially in the Pass Labs section, and I found it all very educational, even though I'm quite the novice. The engagement level of the community encouraged me to register and start this thread.
As a side note, reason I've posted on diyaudio is because I've been reading a lot about amps here, especially in the Pass Labs section, and I found it all very educational, even though I'm quite the novice. The engagement level of the community encouraged me to register and start this thread.
Update. I'm back home, and took the pcb out of the unit for testing.
The capacitor is Jamicon, and removed from the pcb measures at 44uF. Diodes are all ok.
I connected 120V and neutral via alligator clamps, relay switches and is dead silent. Zero noise. I placed the pcb back into the Furman, turned on, buzz is present. Turned off, I then disconnected then output of the relay, zero noise. Reconnected the load, buzzing back on. It appears that is it, so unsure where to go from here. Pcb and relay on their own are perfectly fine. The relay connects 120V to that large capacitor you can see in the first photo in my original post.
So I took a decidedly mechanical approach here, simply surrounded that pcb with sponge-like shipping protectors to diffuse/absorb the sound emitted, while still leaving some room for ventilation. I no longer hear the buzzing sound. Not happy with the solution but for now it will have to do.
The capacitor is Jamicon, and removed from the pcb measures at 44uF. Diodes are all ok.
I connected 120V and neutral via alligator clamps, relay switches and is dead silent. Zero noise. I placed the pcb back into the Furman, turned on, buzz is present. Turned off, I then disconnected then output of the relay, zero noise. Reconnected the load, buzzing back on. It appears that is it, so unsure where to go from here. Pcb and relay on their own are perfectly fine. The relay connects 120V to that large capacitor you can see in the first photo in my original post.
So I took a decidedly mechanical approach here, simply surrounded that pcb with sponge-like shipping protectors to diffuse/absorb the sound emitted, while still leaving some room for ventilation. I no longer hear the buzzing sound. Not happy with the solution but for now it will have to do.
It could be a ripple, or that the relay is overloaded.
One more thing, just make sure it is connected to line, if it is a single pole relay.
44 on a 47 rated capacitor is within limits, no problem.
Seems to be that the load or related circuit is causing noise in the relay supply.
Needs thinking over.
Take care the sound absorber is not flammable.
One more thing, just make sure it is connected to line, if it is a single pole relay.
44 on a 47 rated capacitor is within limits, no problem.
Seems to be that the load or related circuit is causing noise in the relay supply.
Needs thinking over.
Take care the sound absorber is not flammable.
If possible, check the DC volts to relay coil in direct and fitted states as above.
It just might be that the supply to the coil is lower or noisier than expected, and that is causing the buzz.
And in quiet on state, and in buzzing state, measure contact resistance.
It still needs some thought...
It just might be that the supply to the coil is lower or noisier than expected, and that is causing the buzz.
And in quiet on state, and in buzzing state, measure contact resistance.
It still needs some thought...
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