I've done deep dives through a number of threads on the ebay / aliexpress i2s dac boards for ES9038Q2M, ES9018K2M, and similar. Most of these boards seem to huge flaws in the output stage, power supply regulation, etc that makes them sound horrible without significant modifications.
After going through many of these threads, it makes me curious... Has anyone found any budget i2s dac boards (ES9xxx, AK49XX, etc) that actually sound more or less pretty good "out of the box" when powered with a good power supply and hooked up to a quality usb to i2s converter? Or are they all pretty terrible without significant modifications?
After going through many of these threads, it makes me curious... Has anyone found any budget i2s dac boards (ES9xxx, AK49XX, etc) that actually sound more or less pretty good "out of the box" when powered with a good power supply and hooked up to a quality usb to i2s converter? Or are they all pretty terrible without significant modifications?
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Boards using TDA1543 or TDA1387 don't sound horrible to me in stock form. Sure they benefit from lots of modding but they're quite listenable to as they come. Found one example on Taobao (this isn't one I've actually tried but the formula generally works OK) : TDA1543???? IIS??? I2S??? ????? ??????-???
Found one example on Taobao...
Hi abraxalito, I have see you mentioning Taobao a few times and so have to ask how easy are the sellers with selling to someone outside of China? Just curious because I have been looking for a bang for the buck China DAC too but usually I go to Aliexpress and look around.
edit: I just tried to search on Taobabo but as soon as I type in search query it takes me to a login page. 🙁
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I've never used one (as I live in China) but I understand there's no shortage of agents in China willing to buy from Taobao and ship to you for a modest fee. Most Taobao sellers won't be set up for international shipping, nor will they speak English. Aliexpress is often a more convenient option for those outside China and many sellers seem to have the same items as on Taobao. Taobao has much more choice though.
I haven’t found any that sound great as delivered, but I hardly call replacement of passive components major work with the ones I’ve chosen.
This ak4495 board uses the data sheet implementation of the output filter, sounds good to me using 12s inputs from a digital player, worked fine with the xmos input as well.
HIFI AK4495SEQ+AD827 XMOS U8 USB Decode DAC board support 32BIT 768K DIY Audio 926319275512 | eBay
This ak4495 board uses the data sheet implementation of the output filter, sounds good to me using 12s inputs from a digital player, worked fine with the xmos input as well.
HIFI AK4495SEQ+AD827 XMOS U8 USB Decode DAC board support 32BIT 768K DIY Audio 926319275512 | eBay
How about any that accept coax input (via eBay)?
I'd be interested in this as well. Some of the XMOS boards have coaxial out and they're so affordable these days.
How about any that accept coax input (via eBay)?
You want a USB board that accepts SPDIF input, or a DAC board that does?
Sorry, I think you were asking about SPDIF input DACs. Its generally better to use I2S when possible. If SPDIF is the only choice, a nice feature of ESS DAC chips is they have an internal SPDIF receiver and an internal ASRC for reclocking SPDIF to the local DAC clock. The downside of the low cost ESS DACs is that they need a lot of modding to sound and perform anywhere close to data sheet specifications.
One alternative would be to use an AKM DAC. They are typically much easier to get sounding good verses ESS DACs. The problem is they need an external SPDIF receiver chip and optionally an external ASRC chip. The AKM AK4118 and AK4137 are good parts for the job, but they add complexity and cost. In the end, its still easier IMHO to get better sound with AKM, but getting exceptional sound may still require significant modding. Others may disagree, of course. 🙂
One alternative would be to use an AKM DAC. They are typically much easier to get sounding good verses ESS DACs. The problem is they need an external SPDIF receiver chip and optionally an external ASRC chip. The AKM AK4118 and AK4137 are good parts for the job, but they add complexity and cost. In the end, its still easier IMHO to get better sound with AKM, but getting exceptional sound may still require significant modding. Others may disagree, of course. 🙂
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