Is anybody familiar with Breuer Dynamics arm.
I own one , that's sitting on an Oracle delphy MK1 and it's a wonderful piece of mechanic.
In recent times i saw on an hifi review a really similar one ( not to say that to me it's exactly the same!) but was branded BRINKMANN, priced around €4200 in Italy!
In any case i would like to rewire it , and therefore i would like to understand if there are tips and tricks to observe for, while i'm going to dismount it.
Thanks and bye
Paolo
I own one , that's sitting on an Oracle delphy MK1 and it's a wonderful piece of mechanic.
In recent times i saw on an hifi review a really similar one ( not to say that to me it's exactly the same!) but was branded BRINKMANN, priced around €4200 in Italy!
In any case i would like to rewire it , and therefore i would like to understand if there are tips and tricks to observe for, while i'm going to dismount it.
Thanks and bye
Paolo
Hi Paolo
Dont rewire the Breuer if wires are not broken, they are alright as is. This arm is a mechanical masterpiece but rather fragile.
The Oracle is a perfect environment for the Breuer, one little tweak is usefull for use with lower compliance mc´s (the Breuer was designed for high compliance cartridges): add an extra weight/distance plate, brass is good, of 4-6 grammes between cartridge and shell. Otherwise just be a proud owner
Dont rewire the Breuer if wires are not broken, they are alright as is. This arm is a mechanical masterpiece but rather fragile.
The Oracle is a perfect environment for the Breuer, one little tweak is usefull for use with lower compliance mc´s (the Breuer was designed for high compliance cartridges): add an extra weight/distance plate, brass is good, of 4-6 grammes between cartridge and shell. Otherwise just be a proud owner
Ciao Ingvar.
Thanks for the suggestion. It's better to keep it like this.
i was wondering to make this rewiring because I was not aware of the quality of the wire itself. And this could be the opportunity to give to the whole arm a checK/cleaning.
Due to some budget problems ( a baby is come!!! and he costs a lot!!!) by now I'm using it with a DL103 ( as you say hi compliance) and with a big surprise I'm not suffering at all with such a low budget cartridge.
I've not a single reason to multiply by 10 or 15 the cost of the cartridge because it's not worth. It's been a discovery to find such a nice match between Oracle Breuer and Denon.
In any case if you have some more infos on this arm, i will appreciate very much to have them.
Thanks and bye.
Paolo
Thanks for the suggestion. It's better to keep it like this.
i was wondering to make this rewiring because I was not aware of the quality of the wire itself. And this could be the opportunity to give to the whole arm a checK/cleaning.
Due to some budget problems ( a baby is come!!! and he costs a lot!!!) by now I'm using it with a DL103 ( as you say hi compliance) and with a big surprise I'm not suffering at all with such a low budget cartridge.
I've not a single reason to multiply by 10 or 15 the cost of the cartridge because it's not worth. It's been a discovery to find such a nice match between Oracle Breuer and Denon.
In any case if you have some more infos on this arm, i will appreciate very much to have them.
Thanks and bye.
Paolo
Ciao Paolo
The Denon is a fantastic cartridge, You would only feel fooled if You changed to some expensive exotica, try the extra weigth and see! Somewhere i´ve got the old Absolute sound review of the Breuer hailing it as the "best arm ever made" i´ll try to find it and scan if You would like to have a copy
The Denon is a fantastic cartridge, You would only feel fooled if You changed to some expensive exotica, try the extra weigth and see! Somewhere i´ve got the old Absolute sound review of the Breuer hailing it as the "best arm ever made" i´ll try to find it and scan if You would like to have a copy
If you can scan that stuff it would be great!
Are you using dl103 too?
If yes, with which interface ?(active stepup, transformer etc..)
In any case thanks a lot for the advice.
Ciao
Paolo
Are you using dl103 too?
If yes, with which interface ?(active stepup, transformer etc..)
In any case thanks a lot for the advice.
Ciao
Paolo
Yes i do use the DL 103 and an Ortofon SPU and a Grado signature. The Denon i use in a Stax 12" arm together with the Hiraga design step-up amp. A 20 kg beast with lead acid
batteries and 2x470 000 uF Capacitors.
Ciao
batteries and 2x470 000 uF Capacitors.
Ciao
Buon giorno Paolo
I found a coupple of extra weights, like those i recomended, in my workshop. If You want to try send adress and i´ll put one in a letter.
I found a coupple of extra weights, like those i recomended, in my workshop. If You want to try send adress and i´ll put one in a letter.
Ciao Paolo
Its me again, forgot to say congratulations to the son!!!
About the cost regarding children, dont worry, my son was 18 this January and cost is still rising, but i´ll be damned if i could find something more satisfying to spend on.
Its me again, forgot to say congratulations to the son!!!
About the cost regarding children, dont worry, my son was 18 this January and cost is still rising, but i´ll be damned if i could find something more satisfying to spend on.
bad perspective!!!
I forgot the PS....
thanks a lot Ingvar.
So you are saying that it will be more and more difficult!!!! ( not with the turntable for sure)
In any case Thanks also for the weight, but i think I have something similar in graphite ( made by Art) that an Hifi magazine was giving away at the subscribers.
Therefore give me a few days and I'll come back to you with the impressions on this trick that you're suggesting me.
Ciao and have a nice weekend.
Paolo
PS babies are the best thing that could happen to a man.😀
I forgot the PS....
thanks a lot Ingvar.
So you are saying that it will be more and more difficult!!!! ( not with the turntable for sure)
In any case Thanks also for the weight, but i think I have something similar in graphite ( made by Art) that an Hifi magazine was giving away at the subscribers.
Therefore give me a few days and I'll come back to you with the impressions on this trick that you're suggesting me.
Ciao and have a nice weekend.
Paolo
PS babies are the best thing that could happen to a man.😀
ingvar,
Sorry to jam in, I am also a owner of the Breuer arm, Type 7.
I am very interested to your tweak about putting weight in the headshell. It sounds like very intelligent design.
May I also have one to try?
I will send my address to you in a PM.
Thanks
Sorry to jam in, I am also a owner of the Breuer arm, Type 7.
I am very interested to your tweak about putting weight in the headshell. It sounds like very intelligent design.
May I also have one to try?
I will send my address to you in a PM.
Thanks
Yeah, no problem i have a few left and a friend o makes more if needed. Send me Your adress i´ll mail it, and actually it´s a great arm! Take care of it.
My address
Hi Ingvar,
I've send my mailing address to your email. can you confirm receipt?
Thanks
Hi Ingvar,
I've send my mailing address to your email. can you confirm receipt?
Thanks
ingvar ahlberg said:
Stax 12" arm
ingvar - do you have any data on the Stax arm of yours? I'd like to know what the effective mass is which doesn't seem to be listed anywhere. I get the drift it's for low compliance cartridges which is why i'm interested.
ingvar - do you have any data on the Stax arm of yours? I'd like to know what the effective mass is which doesn't seem to be listed anywhere. I get the drift it's for low compliance cartridges which is why i'm interested.
Hi
Somewhere around here i´ve got the manual for the Stax 12", see if i can dig it up, (if You want my wife´s opinion of the state of order i keep my things in that will be a thread of it´s own).
It is the original 12" j type with detachable SME style shell, was designed for Stax condenser (electret) cartridge which never made it to series production. Effective mass is variable as counterweight consists of two parts inner thredaed as usual and outher sliding to provide for a large span in cartridge weight , ( actually also an extra add on weight if You use the EMT cartridge in original shell). It is most suited for lower compliance cartridges, i like it best with Ortophon SPU, Denon DL103 but also Grado signature models. I´ve used it with realy high compliance cartridges like Sonus blue wich sounds and works good but will produce some lf disturbances, especially on not perfect records.
I´ll see if i find the manual and also post a picture of the arm so we agree on talking about same piece as it is a bit uncommon.
Somewhere around here i´ve got the manual for the Stax 12", see if i can dig it up, (if You want my wife´s opinion of the state of order i keep my things in that will be a thread of it´s own).
It is the original 12" j type with detachable SME style shell, was designed for Stax condenser (electret) cartridge which never made it to series production. Effective mass is variable as counterweight consists of two parts inner thredaed as usual and outher sliding to provide for a large span in cartridge weight , ( actually also an extra add on weight if You use the EMT cartridge in original shell). It is most suited for lower compliance cartridges, i like it best with Ortophon SPU, Denon DL103 but also Grado signature models. I´ve used it with realy high compliance cartridges like Sonus blue wich sounds and works good but will produce some lf disturbances, especially on not perfect records.
I´ll see if i find the manual and also post a picture of the arm so we agree on talking about same piece as it is a bit uncommon.
RetroAudio!
Found some info on the Stax UA70 12", most in Japanese but effective mass should be 24g.
Found some info on the Stax UA70 12", most in Japanese but effective mass should be 24g.
Hi
Ingvar, can you post the URL? If yes, we may use the babelfish.altavista.com to translate Japanese to English.
Ingvar, can you post the URL? If yes, we may use the babelfish.altavista.com to translate Japanese to English.
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