and how long did DS take in the studio? Maybe the engineer was more "efficient"?
Anyone see that three part BBC TV series Classic Albums?
They did Honky Château, The Band, Catch a Fire, 'Machine Head' Electric Ladyland, some crass American band + + + .
. a very interesting insight into the studio craft
Anyone see that three part BBC TV series Classic Albums?
They did Honky Château, The Band, Catch a Fire, 'Machine Head' Electric Ladyland, some crass American band + + + .
. a very interesting insight into the studio craft
Hi rick57 ,
i don't know , for me the end-result is importend ,
soundwise both recordings are for me in the top range .
Greetings from Germany
Jürgen
i don't know , for me the end-result is importend ,
soundwise both recordings are for me in the top range .
Greetings from Germany
Jürgen
rick57 said:and how long did DS take in the studio? Maybe the engineer was more "efficient"?
Anyone see that three part BBC TV series Classic Albums?
They did Honky Château, The Band, Catch a Fire, 'Machine Head' Electric Ladyland, some crass American band + + + .
. a very interesting insight into the studio craft
yeah i saw that, although there was def. more than 3 parts- there may even have been 2 series, as they also did face value by phil collins and Aja by steely dan, two of my all time fave albums 🙂
hmm i wonder if they do a bbc DVD of it ?
rabw
I should have been clearer: there were 3 series, each of (?) six/ seven episodes.
I’d be quite surprised if they weren’t on DVD.
Cheers
I should have been clearer: there were 3 series, each of (?) six/ seven episodes.
I’d be quite surprised if they weren’t on DVD.
Cheers
Jacko's thriller album: Quincy spent 3 months on the bassline alone, for "Bllie Jean". And you know it, when you listen to it.
This list has to include Sg. Peppers. Dark Side, yes. The Wall, also. For that matter, Final Cut is pretty damn awesome, too.
-Karl
-Karl
KBK
i only just sawour post - -are yousure "Quincy spent *3 months on the **bassline alone**"
It was damn effective, but how could just a bassline take a long as an album?
Cheers
i only just sawour post - -are yousure "Quincy spent *3 months on the **bassline alone**"
It was damn effective, but how could just a bassline take a long as an album?
Cheers
Yep! Quincy Jones spent 3 months getting the bass line right, the story goes. Do a google serach, it might come up. Trying to get the drive, beat, timing, volume, shape, fuzz..etc..all exactly right, for that song. You can hear it..it's wrapped pretty darned tight. Micro changes in the timing is one part of the clueing in on (by the listener) that one..
Perhaps he needed better performances from the bass player instead.
I mean, live albums can rock your butt off too! And that's 'in the can' as it's being laid down.
To really hear what Quincy did..you need to hear the 12" LP of 'Billie Jean', cut at 45 RPM on a good analog system. One with CLEAN bass. Usually means.. Not Ported! 😛 😛
Then you can really 'get' the micro-changes in the 'drive' and 'rhythm' of the Bass line. Subtle....but 'perfect'.
Perhaps he needed better performances from the bass player instead.
I mean, live albums can rock your butt off too! And that's 'in the can' as it's being laid down.
To really hear what Quincy did..you need to hear the 12" LP of 'Billie Jean', cut at 45 RPM on a good analog system. One with CLEAN bass. Usually means.. Not Ported! 😛 😛
Then you can really 'get' the micro-changes in the 'drive' and 'rhythm' of the Bass line. Subtle....but 'perfect'.
KBK said:One with CLEAN bass. Usually means.. Not Ported! 😛 😛
Then you can really 'get' the micro-changes in the 'drive' and 'rhythm' of the Bass line. Subtle....but 'perfect'.
+1!
Glad to run across others who see (hear?) it the way I do. I've had trouble explaining this to some people, and even more trouble finding speakers that don't sound bad. So I built my own. I'm planning to post some photos of the project in the Speakers area, hopefully soon.
I think it mainly has to do with the fact that ports cause a phase shift in the lows. Sealed boxes are faster and the phase of the LF is far more linear.
-Karl
The classic, Classic Album programme was AJA - Steely Dan. Fagen & Becker were just so funny. I think it included more of how the tracks were put together than any of the other shows. I now have it on DVD. Catch A Fire was very dissapointing in my view. I had the orginal album (flip top lighter sleeve - very cool). I "lost" the original vinyl to a "friend" years ago.. I bought it on C.D recently, what a let down it sounded rubbish.
Best recorded album. Seal (KIller, Crazy) album v.good, but stand out track for production and ingenuity is VIOLET. A masterpiece.
Best recorded album. Seal (KIller, Crazy) album v.good, but stand out track for production and ingenuity is VIOLET. A masterpiece.
'Billie Jean'
Dumb question: (haven’t heard it for years) that is electric bass and not synth?
'Billie Jean' would make a great bass comparo track, if you could keep your mind on the gear and not just enjoy the music 🙂
Dumb question: (haven’t heard it for years) that is electric bass and not synth?
'Billie Jean' would make a great bass comparo track, if you could keep your mind on the gear and not just enjoy the music 🙂
Ooops, nearly forgot Alan Parson's Quadraphonic mix of DSOTM. Humiliates the SACD mix. Why they didn't just used this is beyond me. Much more powerful and organic than Guuthrie's 5.1 nonsense.
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