I have just purchased a TD160 Turntable. It has a bent motor shaft. I was going to rebuild the TT and put it onto a new plinth, which was to be about 10mm thick. So i was thinking, would one of those new Rega upgrade motor kits for Rega 3 be o.k to use?
And if so, how would I work out the distances, sub platter to motor. I've never done anything thing like this before, so any help on this subject would be appreciated......cheers
Brett
And if so, how would I work out the distances, sub platter to motor. I've never done anything thing like this before, so any help on this subject would be appreciated......cheers
Brett
enzedone,
I have never seem the P3 motor upgrade except here:
http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm
Keep in mind that you will have to make a new pulley to adjust the speed....
And I don't know the length of the axel, so be careful ...
The other way is:
3 years ago I did replace my TD145 AC motor with a OriginLive DC motor
and made a huge PS for it.. {now it can work from either 110 or 220 volts AC}
I had no digital camera at that time, but as I remember
the installation of the motor was real easy using the rectangular mounting plate
shipped with the motor, all I had to do was to install the regulation PCb with 2 screws
on a piece of wood glued to the plinth
and replaced the original speed switch of the Thorens with the 33/45 turns
switch provided.
You should find pictures of such upgrades on the originlive web site.
or some sites with Thorens turntables...
http://www.turntable-power-supply.com/turntable_motors_transformer.htm
I did only buy the DC motor and did build a 9 Volts regulator
with a LM317K and 50VA 12 volts transfo
Alain.
I have never seem the P3 motor upgrade except here:
http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm
Keep in mind that you will have to make a new pulley to adjust the speed....
And I don't know the length of the axel, so be careful ...
The other way is:
3 years ago I did replace my TD145 AC motor with a OriginLive DC motor
and made a huge PS for it.. {now it can work from either 110 or 220 volts AC}
I had no digital camera at that time, but as I remember
the installation of the motor was real easy using the rectangular mounting plate
shipped with the motor, all I had to do was to install the regulation PCb with 2 screws
on a piece of wood glued to the plinth
and replaced the original speed switch of the Thorens with the 33/45 turns
switch provided.
You should find pictures of such upgrades on the originlive web site.
or some sites with Thorens turntables...
http://www.turntable-power-supply.com/turntable_motors_transformer.htm
I did only buy the DC motor and did build a 9 Volts regulator
with a LM317K and 50VA 12 volts transfo
Alain.
cheers
I will check that site out. Yes you are right about the pulley. At the moment i'm just throwing around ideas. I may have to just put up with the shaft as it is, and leave the TT in it's original condition.
Brett
I will check that site out. Yes you are right about the pulley. At the moment i'm just throwing around ideas. I may have to just put up with the shaft as it is, and leave the TT in it's original condition.
Brett
enzedone,
I think I have a solution for you !!!
1)- without unmounting the motor, remove the pulley, get the axel streight
and remount the pulley, if the bend is not so important ; you should solve this easy.
Using a small iron tube to do that.
2)- Disassemble the motor, and eject the axel from the rotor, get it strait then reinsert it.
Just reallign the axel before reinstalling it, that could be the next option.
3)- I sold my motor for about 12 US only the shipping cost, you can find a replacement
real cheap...
Regards.
Alain.
http://www.vinylengine.com/library.php?make=Thorens
PS: I sold my old Thorens TD145 / 220 AC volts motor 3 weeks ago
sorry.
I think I have a solution for you !!!
1)- without unmounting the motor, remove the pulley, get the axel streight
and remount the pulley, if the bend is not so important ; you should solve this easy.
Using a small iron tube to do that.
2)- Disassemble the motor, and eject the axel from the rotor, get it strait then reinsert it.
Just reallign the axel before reinstalling it, that could be the next option.
3)- I sold my motor for about 12 US only the shipping cost, you can find a replacement
real cheap...
Regards.
Alain.
http://www.vinylengine.com/library.php?make=Thorens
PS: I sold my old Thorens TD145 / 220 AC volts motor 3 weeks ago
sorry.
Bent motor shaft...
Hi enzedone
The only proper way to do some straightening is to remove the motor and chuch the motorshaft in a lathe. Maybe a friendly lathe guy will help.
bulgin
Hi enzedone
The only proper way to do some straightening is to remove the motor and chuch the motorshaft in a lathe. Maybe a friendly lathe guy will help.
bulgin
thanks.
Alain, thanks for that website. very interesting, and lots of discusions on turntables.
Bulgin, yes you are right about that. I have already had the motor out to have a look. I would actually like to take the entire shaft out, but it would be very difficult to comletely strip it down. And the casing is joined together by the shafts that hold the motor to the plinth. So i would have to break those connections and find another way of attaching the motor afterwards.
Thats why i was asking if it was possible to use the sub-platter and platter, then just have another motor assembly. I will think about this for a while as I'm in no rush. I haven't even got a pre-amp to run it yet...........but thats a whole other story.....😉
I would love to by a nice motor from that site Alain highlighted but its waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my league, with the exchange rate an all, I could buy another TT for that price.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Brett
Alain, thanks for that website. very interesting, and lots of discusions on turntables.
Bulgin, yes you are right about that. I have already had the motor out to have a look. I would actually like to take the entire shaft out, but it would be very difficult to comletely strip it down. And the casing is joined together by the shafts that hold the motor to the plinth. So i would have to break those connections and find another way of attaching the motor afterwards.
Thats why i was asking if it was possible to use the sub-platter and platter, then just have another motor assembly. I will think about this for a while as I'm in no rush. I haven't even got a pre-amp to run it yet...........but thats a whole other story.....😉
I would love to by a nice motor from that site Alain highlighted but its waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my league, with the exchange rate an all, I could buy another TT for that price.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Brett
Dear Brett,
I am the one who brought a TD145 motor from Alain.
I am living in Hong Kong with 220V 50Hz mains. I have e-bay a TD160 from USA with a 117V 60Hz motor (Pulley size smaller than 50Hz, I think.) which I have replaced with the one I brought from Alain. That means I have a surplus motor suitable for TD160 under 117V 60Hz.
I know 117V motor can be rewired to work under 220V and all you have to do is replace the 50Hz pulley from the motor you have to the one you get from me, If you like of course. And you can have a working wonderful Thorens TT.
Since Alain only charge me the postage cost for his motor, I too will only charge you only the P&P cost.
If interest please let me know.
Best regards,
And again thanks a lot, Alain.
CHOW
I am the one who brought a TD145 motor from Alain.
I am living in Hong Kong with 220V 50Hz mains. I have e-bay a TD160 from USA with a 117V 60Hz motor (Pulley size smaller than 50Hz, I think.) which I have replaced with the one I brought from Alain. That means I have a surplus motor suitable for TD160 under 117V 60Hz.
I know 117V motor can be rewired to work under 220V and all you have to do is replace the 50Hz pulley from the motor you have to the one you get from me, If you like of course. And you can have a working wonderful Thorens TT.
Since Alain only charge me the postage cost for his motor, I too will only charge you only the P&P cost.
If interest please let me know.
Best regards,
And again thanks a lot, Alain.
CHOW
audio3chung,
What a nice Christmas offer, "That's why I Love DIY "
You are a true Gentleman!
enzedone,
I hope that will solve your problem, it's a real nice bargain...
As a Thorens lover, i am thrilled! 2 more working units back in service.
Regards.
Alain.
What a nice Christmas offer, "That's why I Love DIY "
You are a true Gentleman!
enzedone,
I hope that will solve your problem, it's a real nice bargain...
As a Thorens lover, i am thrilled! 2 more working units back in service.
Regards.
Alain.
WOW
Audio3chung
That is a lovely offer. So you are pretty sure about the re-wiring?
My pulley is in good order.
I would love to get this going.
I can be contacted via:
enzedone.at.orcon.net.nz
Brett
That's a nice compensation for having to work Christmas
Audio3chung
That is a lovely offer. So you are pretty sure about the re-wiring?
My pulley is in good order.
I would love to get this going.
I can be contacted via:
enzedone.at.orcon.net.nz
Brett
That's a nice compensation for having to work Christmas
Hi Enzedone,
I thing this one may tell you how to rewire the motor:
http://www.theanalogdept.com/images...Thorens/svc_man145_160_165web/Page07 copy.gif
I am quite sure the one I have can be rewire to work under 220V 50Hz with a proper pulley.
Regards,
CHOW
I thing this one may tell you how to rewire the motor:
http://www.theanalogdept.com/images...Thorens/svc_man145_160_165web/Page07 copy.gif
I am quite sure the one I have can be rewire to work under 220V 50Hz with a proper pulley.
Regards,
CHOW
Hi Enzedone,
Another way to get the motor:
http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI...=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
Best regards,
CHOW
Another way to get the motor:
http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI...=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=
Best regards,
CHOW
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Yes you are right, it looks as though all I have to do is remove the resister for the the smaller voltage.
This is great news.
Yes you are right, it looks as though all I have to do is remove the resister for the the smaller voltage.
This is great news.
Money is in
Chow,
I will check my AC supply first as I think it's running about 230-238VAC from the wall. Maybe I should get one of those strobe mats, to be sure.
Anyway I'll just br happy to get it up and running.
Brett
this TT is really getting, first coming from Germany, Then motor goes to HK, now its coming down here...........😀
Chow,
I will check my AC supply first as I think it's running about 230-238VAC from the wall. Maybe I should get one of those strobe mats, to be sure.
Anyway I'll just br happy to get it up and running.
Brett
this TT is really getting, first coming from Germany, Then motor goes to HK, now its coming down here...........😀
Arrived
Well, the motor arrived the other and it's sure straighter than my old one. I will try to get it together this weekend and see how it runs.............................
Cheers guys
Brett😀
Well, the motor arrived the other and it's sure straighter than my old one. I will try to get it together this weekend and see how it runs.............................
Cheers guys
Brett😀
Hi everybody
That's my first post in this forum.
I use this thread to ask some informations about the TD165 motor. I've received an old TT and I want to put it in function. The first dubt is the motor - it's normal that it can be easy stopped by pressing the pulley with finger ?. I bought new belt, when I switch on the motor it make a low noise (vibrations) for 10-20 s untill it reach the nominal speed.
I mesured the resistance of the two windings : 4,2k and 5,6 kohm, can they be different or there is something wrong. I tried to change the resistor, instead of the 5,6k I tried 4,7k and 10 k (with the last it doesn't turn), the problem remains.
The pulley has 13,8 mm of diameter, should be 14,0 mm ?
I have buy a new one or this a normal behavior of the TD165 ?

That's my first post in this forum.
I use this thread to ask some informations about the TD165 motor. I've received an old TT and I want to put it in function. The first dubt is the motor - it's normal that it can be easy stopped by pressing the pulley with finger ?. I bought new belt, when I switch on the motor it make a low noise (vibrations) for 10-20 s untill it reach the nominal speed.
I mesured the resistance of the two windings : 4,2k and 5,6 kohm, can they be different or there is something wrong. I tried to change the resistor, instead of the 5,6k I tried 4,7k and 10 k (with the last it doesn't turn), the problem remains.
The pulley has 13,8 mm of diameter, should be 14,0 mm ?
I have buy a new one or this a normal behavior of the TD165 ?

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