RobM said:I think in this case "sound quality" really just means "warm fuzzies" and that this quality is something no inexpensive piece can ever have. 🙂
The much of the Behringer stuff is on par with (more expensive) offerings from ART, Yamaha, Alesis, Ashly, and even Rane, IMO. Some of their products (digital stuff) are better than others (small mixers).
With that said, I think for equal quality you'd have to spend at least as much on passives and then you're stuck with those component values.
Just IMO, no flames. 🙂
Hi RobM
Hmmm, this "warm & fuzzy" sound .....

Must admit I don't really know what that means,
it's certainly nothing I would want for my own system. 😉
For me a perfect digital crossover would be very cheap,
easy to use and sonically invisible. 😉
If I could put something like the Behringer into
the system with all the settings flat and not hear it,
that would be great.
No flames 😉
cheers
slowmotion said:Hmmm, this "warm & fuzzy" sound .....
Must admit I don't really know what that means,
it's certainly nothing I would want for my own system. 😉
"Warm fuzzies" means "good feelings." Like if you pay more for a piece of equipment then it makes you feel better (but may not sound better). 🙂
RobM said:
"Warm fuzzies" means "good feelings." Like if you pay more for a piece of equipment then it makes you feel better (but may not sound better). 🙂
Aha !
Well for me it's the other way around;
If I pay very little for very good equipment,
that brings good feelings 😉
And with the money saved I can buy more LPs & CDs 😉
cheers

slowmotion said:
Hei Petter,
So you are allready planning to modify it, interesting...
Yes, I always plan to modify digital equipment even before the purchase (and I really don't know how this one sounds). It usually is pretty easy. I believe I was the first in Norway to own a 24 bit DAC chip (grafted into my model 1990 Onkyo CD player).
Now have you considered one of the really cool advantages of a digitalt crossover?:
If you split the signal digitally, each segment contains less energy than the full range signal. This means that you can apply a digital gain to this signal. What this means is that you are effectively operating the signal with higher "volume" of the DAC chip, and just about every technical aspect of sound quality should be improved. My guess is that the best way to do this is to first upsample to 32bit/96KHz or higher (64/192 comes to mind). Then add the gain (if equal). Then do the crossover, then decimate to 24 bits (if the DAC chip cannot handle the full 32).
Cool eh? Now how well it works in practice needs to be verified 🙂
Petter
My comments had nothing to do with warm and fuzzy feelings please let me assure you of that. The equipment in question is used in a FOH PA system and I had nothing to do with purchasing the equipment. I simply have to operate it and critically listen to the results.
The Behringer stuff sounds good to me 😉
Could have something to do with the fact that the first time I listened to it I didn't know how much it cost and I mistook it for a Klark Teknik.
Could have something to do with the fact that the first time I listened to it I didn't know how much it cost and I mistook it for a Klark Teknik.

Hi,
The circuit used in DBX driverack PA are:
ADC : AKM AK5383VS
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak5383/ak5383.html
DAC : AKM AK4356VQ
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4356/ak4356.html
DSP: Motorola 56367PV150
http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/docs/DSP56367.pdf
OpAmps: JRC 4580
http://www.njr.co.jp/pdf/ae/ae04056.pdf
In Behringer CX3400, Opamps are 4580 too.(can make a picture of the inside of you want, no a lot of stuff inside).
Rémy
The circuit used in DBX driverack PA are:
ADC : AKM AK5383VS
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak5383/ak5383.html
DAC : AKM AK4356VQ
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4356/ak4356.html
DSP: Motorola 56367PV150
http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/docs/DSP56367.pdf
OpAmps: JRC 4580
http://www.njr.co.jp/pdf/ae/ae04056.pdf
In Behringer CX3400, Opamps are 4580 too.(can make a picture of the inside of you want, no a lot of stuff inside).
Rémy
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