Balanced Phono (split from Snake Oil)

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Oh oh. Here we have another pro audio misunderstanding. Balanced lines are only needed in some situations. Some of the best consoles ever made are completely unbalanced!, Long runs of low levels such as mics do benefit, however they do *very very very very* (did I mention not much?) little for short runs or even fair at line levels, certainly not anything remotely audible. I had a very long talk with a very famous English gentleman of audio on this subject. No gain for us at all. Know what should have been balanced? Phono cartridges!!! They needed it, never were though as far as I know!

I'll admit, there has been so much engineering on the RCA connector over the years that good ones are now available. The major problem that has been addressed is the ground contact spring fingers; newer RCAs have some form of circumferential spring to keep them reasonably tight. No matter how good the connection is though, it's still unbalanced, and shield current will be on the signal return. Perhaps that's not a concern for the normal audio system, but for the ultimate in performance it seems silly to spend many thousands on sources, amps, speakers etc., yet use single-ended line-level connections.
 
I guess you are right. I never looked at it that way, but I was speaking of the wires through the tonearm. Seems like I remember only 4 in a non metal shell head. I'm looking at my cheap Thorens and I don't see a drain either, plus the spacers included are nylon. Please no one get the idea I'm a "vinylist" (-: Not since clean converters and that has been a while. Flea markets = great 60s jazz on stacks of "black shellacs" that never made of to cd .(-:

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On my Thorens the drain or ground wire is connected to the arm. The arm tube does the same job as the shield on XLR cables I suppose.
That may well be the reason almost all tone arms are made from conductive material like metal or carbon fibre. The wooden arm I've seen was shielded on the inside.
 
I have always been dubious about the earthing arrangements on typical phono cartridges.
By this I mean, for example on plenty of Shure MM cartridges, a small copper removable strap is typically fitted that connects the body of the cartridge to the ground side (-ve) pin of one of the cartridge channel outputs.
Some cartridge bodies are electrically conductive, and connected to the headshell, and the tone arm.

This automatically ensures that the two channels are not identical 🙄.

Dan.
 
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Other than Deccas, I haven't found any that aren't intrinsically balanced. I've looked at Ortofon, Grado, Shure, Audio-Technica, Linn, and Technics. Which ones have you seen that weren't?
I think all phono cartridge channels are intrinsically balanced.

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I am referring to the earth strap that connects the cartridge body to one of the channel -ve terminals.
EMI injected onto the earth shield of one channel, and whatever parasitics between channels and shield/case will not be identical.
The actual effect I do not know.

Wrt the cartridge body, balanced floating signal connection ought to be the optimal method to ensure 'sameness' of the two channels.
Dan.
 
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