B9E Novar socket for USA large 9 pin tubes with 1 mm pins.

So after seeing some of the threads on here, and seeing many tubes that would be useful but not finding any sockets, I've designed a PCB based socket for them.

It uses a set of nine Keystone 1434 as the socket pinholes. They are easy to desolder in the event they wear out.

The connections are made to screw terminals.

There is a centre hole to make drilling the chassis easier, too. EDIT: The hole is 3mm. I now know some Novar tubes have the evacuation tip on the bottom. The hole can be drilled out if needed.

To the mods - Move to Vendors if necessary. I post this in parts so people will see it.

Oh, and Happy Wednesday.

Koda
 

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Another useful PCB would be a circular adapter board for 9 pin Novar and another for 12 pin Compactron. (socket pins or male pins optional) These are useful for making adapters between a new tube and an existing socket in some amplifier. There are 7 and 9 pin Noval adapters and pins on Ebay (pics below), but none for the Novar and Compactron sizes. The ones in the pics have holes for wires around the outside, but one can also easily solder to the ends of the pins protruding thru the PCB by a 1/4 inch. The pins I've gotten off Ebay are just over 5/8 inch long, with a pointed end on one end.

One can make socket extenders or test sockets with these too. A pin straightener is useful for holding pins in alignment while soldering them to the PCB. (the one shown in the last pic below is 1/4 inch thick) A good idea to put a tube into any socket being soldered to an adapter, to align the socket terminals.
 

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Nice!

If the Keystone pins are too expensive, I have used cheap RS-232 type pins (come in rolls). But they can become loose easily, so I put some heat shrink tube over them for my curve tracer leads. Not so good for a hot power tube though.

I did find some Novar PC mount sockets on Ebay or some online tube store, but they are the usual loose Chinese ones, have to fix the terminals.
 

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I have the sockets you linked a picture of. I was surprised they didn't grip the Novar tube better considering how tight the socket is the first time you put in a 6P45S (I thought I'd crack the glass).

The Keystone pins cost more, but they do work well - they appear to have actual springs instead of just bent leaves. They can handle bent pins, too.

Here's a side view.
 

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So who has the link to the circuit board people? It also would make sense to use thick heavy duty circuit board with 4 holes for stand offs to be able to get those circuit board novar sockets converted into chassis mount for point to point wiring. I got some 1mm PINs for Nixie tubes off the big A..., which I could use with your circuit board introduced here earlier.
 
I'm not sure what you mean, but the boards are 1.6mm and have 4 holes for standoffs and are made from FR-4...
I'm also going to order a prototype of the boards made of aluminum - they are single layer though so the connectors will need to be on the other side.
 
Kodabmx, so from your message I see you are still selling those and you offer the boards. Initially I overlooked that details off your boards completely. So what is the cost of the board per piece and how do I order them? Can any PIN fit or just a few the board was designed for? I have 1mm pins for Nixie tubes off the big A and they fit Novar. Kindly advise...
 
Hello Everybody! I found a source of Cinch Novar NOS bottom mount sockets. I am asking you to send your inquiry directly to me and I send you the link. I do not want those mysterious Asian buyers snap them up, or that greedy auction site seller drain that source and make a killing by scalping us on those sockets like those two sellers who offer a single socket at 15USD to 25USD a piece. This guy sells at about 5.50USD per socket. All I ask you here, when I send you the seller info upon request: Do not post it, keep it quiet! NOS Novar sockets are as rare as hen's having teeth. Cinch already confirmed that these are Novars. I messaged with one of their engineers working there for ages and he said definitely Novar!!!
 
Kodabmx, so from your message I see you are still selling those and you offer the boards. Initially I overlooked that details off your boards completely. So what is the cost of the board per piece and how do I order them? Can any PIN fit or just a few the board was designed for? I have 1mm pins for Nixie tubes off the big A and they fit Novar. Kindly advise...
I designed it to use Keystone 1434 but if it fits in the hole, it should work. The holes for the micro jacks are 2.3mm wide.

I sell them for 15$CAD each which includes the board (obviously!), 9 Keystone 1434, 2 2P and 1 3P connectors, and 4 M3 standoffs with screws.
I can do blank boards for 2$CAD a piece. Plus shipping. Also FYI Canada Post is poised to go on strike at any moment, so shipping would be by a courier like UPS, FedEx, Purolator, DHL etc.

FYI at the time of writing, 1$CAD = 0.72$USD

Koda
 
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