I'm been looking at those audiophile ethernet switches and cables.
Also looking into the audiophile wall outlets and audiophile quality Romex ( you know, monocrystal, cryogenic made in Serbia by monks ).
But I sense that there is a big issue out there... we don't have audiophile WiFi.
How do we make sure that the electrons flowing through our subatomically aligned and coherent clock synchronized paradigms are transmitted through the air preserving the quality of the soundstage and the microdynamics that are inherently fundamental in the music?
I mean, I figure a spatially distributed transmission should preserve the damping qualities of the SIT, huh?
Do we need to use lasers? Audiophile versions, naturally!
Audiophile HEPA air filters perhaps?
Tice Clocks?
Maybe fill the room with nitrogen ( do they make audio-transparent oxygen breathing masks? )
As our audio systems get better, such things become important.
Perhaps we should get our friends over at ASR involved in measuring this?
Also looking into the audiophile wall outlets and audiophile quality Romex ( you know, monocrystal, cryogenic made in Serbia by monks ).
But I sense that there is a big issue out there... we don't have audiophile WiFi.
How do we make sure that the electrons flowing through our subatomically aligned and coherent clock synchronized paradigms are transmitted through the air preserving the quality of the soundstage and the microdynamics that are inherently fundamental in the music?
I mean, I figure a spatially distributed transmission should preserve the damping qualities of the SIT, huh?
Do we need to use lasers? Audiophile versions, naturally!
Audiophile HEPA air filters perhaps?
Tice Clocks?
Maybe fill the room with nitrogen ( do they make audio-transparent oxygen breathing masks? )
As our audio systems get better, such things become important.
Perhaps we should get our friends over at ASR involved in measuring this?
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I think, if it survives, that the term "audiophile" has become abundantly obsolete by now.
My opinion only, of course.
I believe that a music enthusiast (this comes first, right?) and then an Audio enthusiast (so in one way or another a "technician") can become "super" enthusiasts because they are looking for something more.
Not only that, they can also afford financially that "more" and have the mental and physical tranquility to experiment.
I fully understand the fact that real technicians often, perhaps not always, consider it quite ridiculous to spend money on the so-called "snake oil" which however has never been sufficiently demonstrated to be truly such.
Personally I love comparing quality things related to a market segment, and choosing what I think is best (for me).
It has a cost, but as long as one can afford it, there is no problem.
Where I come from, there's a saying that goes: "Where there's pleasure, there's no loss".
The above applies to everything, in my opinion, including interpersonal relationships.
Possibly everything else is maybe just the presumption of knowing, of understanding and interpreting things one doesn't know, that is, those that happen to other people, according to one mental parameters, one beliefs and one unique and unrepeatable experience in the life.
It seems almost impossible to really agree on any topic whatsoever. 🙂
For what it's worth, please note that I'm serious, but not completely.
Just as you in this specified post appeared to me. 😉
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I don't know how serious you are with the original post, but I think WiFi should not be a problem anymore these days. I'm using the same older Netgear 'Orbi' mesh system with wireless 'backhaul' for the access point to satellite connection now in a suburban neighborhood and before in a pretty dense urban area, with plenty of other WiFi networks visible in both locations, and it just works. Before the mesh system I had dropouts, connection problems etc., every few weeks or months I would have to search for a less crowded channel, but since switching to the mesh system and letting it aggregate channels and whatever else it does there have been zero problems with audio or video (and web browsing, and other less bandwidth- and latency-sensitive applications).
Of course your devices and applications have to have some minimal smarts about buffering, and have to have good enough clocks, and I don't know whether that is a given for everything audio out there. But WiFi itself should just work these days.
Of course your devices and applications have to have some minimal smarts about buffering, and have to have good enough clocks, and I don't know whether that is a given for everything audio out there. But WiFi itself should just work these days.
It's not the term "audiophile" that is becoming obsolete. That's not the problem.
The real problem is that audiophiles themselves are aging and becoming obsolete. Younger generations are satisfied with poor sound quality that some of us would not be willing to accept.
Here is an article on the subject:
https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/02/audiophiles-going-extinct/
No one ever went broke underestimating the silliness of rich "audiophiles".
But here I am serious, in the rich tradition of the Tice Clocks and Mpingo Discs. There is serious physics at work here, it's just that it's too complicated to share my IP with you. so take my word for it and send me your VISA number, name on the card, expiration date and security number on the back.
Surely we need homogenized electron pairs in the helium used for transmission of the Wifi Waves. As in we make two inch thick, flexible, hollow pipes made with metallic, RF opaque materials, filled with helium and we transmit the WiFI wholly within them. These I call WiFi WaveForms.
Let me explain it simply.... WiFi transmission travels in noisy RF environments, so we want to isolate them from the outside... create their own electro magnetic World, so to speak... so we enclose the RF WiFi within isolated, metallic pipes.
That way we gain two things
(1) Shield the WiFi RF transmission from other RF noise in the environment. No contention. mesh or channel hopping that affects the micro dynamics and pace of the sonic presentation.
(2) Electronically and physically decouple the lower frequency ethernet endpoints by using a wireless datalink. Clocks jitter disappears,
We will need to build some rather large air-coupled WiFi switches and then some big end points that hold the helium inside with an antenna interface. So you can plug in your receiving device. Never shall any active electronic transfers within the helium filled Wifi Waveforms...
WiFi WaveForms... ie: WF^2... for the math challenged (most of our customers), it will be WF2.
For kicks, we can sell the High Pressure WF2H...wherein the helium is held at some pressure. The greater pressure will support WIFi 5G. The denser density of the data flux transmission is recommended for listeners that prefer complex music, such a orchestral, European Techno Heavy Metal and Mid Modern Chang ballets. It supports the greater density of information when the music reaches fortissimos, without the strings congealing into a terpid mess or the brilliance of the timpani collapsing to the consistency of a warm peanut butter cup.
Now, you might observe that a metallic WF2 is going to reflect the waves inside the pipe as well as keeping them within.... no problem... the interior of the pipe is lined with EM absorbing materials created for the Space Shuttle. Sure, that means that the power transmission efficiency suffers and we have to run a 100 watt transmitter for a 20 foot run....
How does it sound? Well, working on it. Currently I have four issues in the lab.
(1) The entire neighborhood loses their WiFi and OTA TV reception when I play Mahler. Some report spontaneous popcorn popping.
(2) The local FM station at the University shuts down when I turn on the system.
(3) I had to move the couch from the living room because I got pipes going each and every way... so I can't hear the music.
(4) I blew some Skynet satellites when I forgot to unplug the wired switch.
I'll let you know when I solve those issues.
A nice byproduct of using this fine helium will be it can be used for power the Plasmatronics in the room. Surely, audiophiles that can afford a WF2H can also afford to get a hold of @Tony Salsich and order themselves a pair...
But here I am serious, in the rich tradition of the Tice Clocks and Mpingo Discs. There is serious physics at work here, it's just that it's too complicated to share my IP with you. so take my word for it and send me your VISA number, name on the card, expiration date and security number on the back.
Surely we need homogenized electron pairs in the helium used for transmission of the Wifi Waves. As in we make two inch thick, flexible, hollow pipes made with metallic, RF opaque materials, filled with helium and we transmit the WiFI wholly within them. These I call WiFi WaveForms.
Let me explain it simply.... WiFi transmission travels in noisy RF environments, so we want to isolate them from the outside... create their own electro magnetic World, so to speak... so we enclose the RF WiFi within isolated, metallic pipes.
That way we gain two things
(1) Shield the WiFi RF transmission from other RF noise in the environment. No contention. mesh or channel hopping that affects the micro dynamics and pace of the sonic presentation.
(2) Electronically and physically decouple the lower frequency ethernet endpoints by using a wireless datalink. Clocks jitter disappears,
We will need to build some rather large air-coupled WiFi switches and then some big end points that hold the helium inside with an antenna interface. So you can plug in your receiving device. Never shall any active electronic transfers within the helium filled Wifi Waveforms...
WiFi WaveForms... ie: WF^2... for the math challenged (most of our customers), it will be WF2.
For kicks, we can sell the High Pressure WF2H...wherein the helium is held at some pressure. The greater pressure will support WIFi 5G. The denser density of the data flux transmission is recommended for listeners that prefer complex music, such a orchestral, European Techno Heavy Metal and Mid Modern Chang ballets. It supports the greater density of information when the music reaches fortissimos, without the strings congealing into a terpid mess or the brilliance of the timpani collapsing to the consistency of a warm peanut butter cup.
Now, you might observe that a metallic WF2 is going to reflect the waves inside the pipe as well as keeping them within.... no problem... the interior of the pipe is lined with EM absorbing materials created for the Space Shuttle. Sure, that means that the power transmission efficiency suffers and we have to run a 100 watt transmitter for a 20 foot run....
How does it sound? Well, working on it. Currently I have four issues in the lab.
(1) The entire neighborhood loses their WiFi and OTA TV reception when I play Mahler. Some report spontaneous popcorn popping.
(2) The local FM station at the University shuts down when I turn on the system.
(3) I had to move the couch from the living room because I got pipes going each and every way... so I can't hear the music.
(4) I blew some Skynet satellites when I forgot to unplug the wired switch.
I'll let you know when I solve those issues.
A nice byproduct of using this fine helium will be it can be used for power the Plasmatronics in the room. Surely, audiophiles that can afford a WF2H can also afford to get a hold of @Tony Salsich and order themselves a pair...
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You may be onto something! But I think shielding is the way to go.... Think Faraday Cages! In my younger years, we had some interesting lab setups, where we were trying to reduce any sort of external RF interference, so the whole room was enclosed in a very fine copper mesh. Floors, walls, ceilings, everything. You walked in through what looked for all the world like a normal screen door, except it was quite heavy, due to all the copper! Now expand that your your whole house! Heck, solid sheet copper roofs last for a hundred years or more, this could actually save you money!!!
I think it should be spelled "AudioFile" for WiFi since music from streams and CDs is stored in files. Files are chopped into packets which may arrive out of order such that buffers are reshuffled. Streams from data centers can be rerouted for performance. If you find this unsatisfactory, buy the CD or vinyl release.
Maybe not forever. More devices, more bandwidth. An article from the reg discusses the future in urban high density living. Granted cable labs has a biased view, so fwiw. https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/22/cable_labs_wifi_future_analysis/ They are advocating for more spectrum for wifi.
Well, let's not move into a 144-apartment high rise then... ;-) It's true that it's not just everybody and their grandmother setting up WiFi, but also the explosion in number of devices that need to connect on each network. Maybe it's a good thing that a lot of the older devices can only use the 2.4 GHz band.
In Chicago we had about 50 units around our backyard, and probably the same number again in WiFi reach (100 feet?) across and along the street, and the Orbi (using WiFi 5, I believe) handled it very well without any manual intervention.
Eventually we might all need metallic wallpaper (or super insulation) on (or in) the outside facing walls to keep our neighbors happy (but maybe not quite Tony's steam punk copper RF waveguides). But that will cause problems for cell phone reception, so you'll need a repeater inside your unit for that. Before I switched to the mesh router system, I actually tried reflectors behind some of our device WiFi antennas. The reflector positioning is a bit finicky though; probably better and easier if it were built right into the antenna. I think our routers now already do some kind of beamforming.
In Chicago we had about 50 units around our backyard, and probably the same number again in WiFi reach (100 feet?) across and along the street, and the Orbi (using WiFi 5, I believe) handled it very well without any manual intervention.
Eventually we might all need metallic wallpaper (or super insulation) on (or in) the outside facing walls to keep our neighbors happy (but maybe not quite Tony's steam punk copper RF waveguides). But that will cause problems for cell phone reception, so you'll need a repeater inside your unit for that. Before I switched to the mesh router system, I actually tried reflectors behind some of our device WiFi antennas. The reflector positioning is a bit finicky though; probably better and easier if it were built right into the antenna. I think our routers now already do some kind of beamforming.
Yes, it is indeed based on a Faraday Cage... but my attorney told me not to say that if we hope to get the patents.... 😛
Yes, I have worked in rooms where we had RF stuff that we were measuring and they were Faraday cages. Our measurement PCs were also fully shielded.
