Assistance with cause of Harshness

[jimbones]

Ok Im back. I had surgery so I was not able to have much speaker time. So I finished the speakerand this is what sounds best in my system. Feel free to throw darts lol! Comments, suggestions?


I have the speakers on 24 inch stands separated from the subs and it helped quite a bit.

 

[pliedtka]

Interesting, looks similar what I put together with 17NRXC-4 and 29RDNC, 2kHz LR4. I thought in the beginning that going flatter will sound good, but no, the sounded fatiguing. The SB 6-7 inchers have cone break-up around 6k that gets nasty off axis and the raising shelf response from 3.5k isn't all that easy to deal with. I just don't want to add more parts like RLC traps, because it gets a bit heavy on my pocket. Can you show the individual curves

 

[cumbb]

You do listen with papyrus-speakers;-! These do sound a little bit "harsh"-)
Which amp do you use?

I would clamp the chassis.
I would remove the crossovers.
I would remove the Tweeter - the MW16P are wonderful fullrange; you will get endless fineness and space.-!
Use one of the two MW16P as sub - a little coil does do the job;-)

My suggestions;-)

 

[ernperkins]

That's a troll post if I ever saw one.

 

[jimbones]

Can you show the individual curves

as requested

 

[pliedtka]

That's what got LR4 both sides, I tried flatter around 2.5k but the voices sound better with a bit boost in x-o area. The 1k peak comes from 17NRX enclosure diffraction. The 1.4k dip - as always - from surround reflection, and I just l left it without trying to compensate (supposedly the new NRXC driver is much flatter in that area). Really should use different tweeter - maybe the 26ADC or the full size 29 soft dome would be a better match for 2k x-o.