Anyone here have an OHP that they gutted for a metal halide conversion. Specifically i'm looking for the power supply for an FXL bulb....82V.....common models that used it are the
Elmo HP-4K
3M 9700
I'll update you when i get more models
Elmo HP-4K
3M 9700
I'll update you when i get more models
Hi Eebasist,
When you say power suply, what exactly do you mean?
Most OHPs with FXL bulbs (in the US) use a single diode to half rectify the AC to a DC(ish) power line, and use a resistor as ballast.
Some have a slow start circuit to ramp up the line voltage over a second or so in stead of hitting the bulb with a thermal shock pulse, but if you were really worried about that, you could get a cheap 500W variac which could be used to achieve the same effect manually.
If you want details, check out the schematics available here:
http://www.kmr.com/manuals/manuals.htm
Bill.
When you say power suply, what exactly do you mean?
Most OHPs with FXL bulbs (in the US) use a single diode to half rectify the AC to a DC(ish) power line, and use a resistor as ballast.
Some have a slow start circuit to ramp up the line voltage over a second or so in stead of hitting the bulb with a thermal shock pulse, but if you were really worried about that, you could get a cheap 500W variac which could be used to achieve the same effect manually.
If you want details, check out the schematics available here:
http://www.kmr.com/manuals/manuals.htm
Bill.
I love you bill......so if i half rectify 120V ac.....1.4*60=84V.....any idea what values of parts i need to do it correctly....sweet, i just bought a proxima DP2400 crappy vga res projector with dead bulb power supply
Most dimmer switches are not rated for the high wattage - and many use triacs to do the dimming. I don't know if that is good.
If you can get the bulbs cheaply, you probably don't need the variac - it might squeeze a few extra hours out of each bulb, but probably not much more. I have seen variacs for < $50.
Bill.
If you can get the bulbs cheaply, you probably don't need the variac - it might squeeze a few extra hours out of each bulb, but probably not much more. I have seen variacs for < $50.
Bill.
i'm an idiot.... half wave rectification is .7*120=84 not 1.4*60. Wish i would have kept my variac when i had one......i dont care about bulb life that much.....i'll just go to MH eventually or something. What value ballast resistor would you reccommend? I tried doing a voltage doubler on AC mains a few times for a tube amp and was told it isnt reccommended since there needs to be an isolation xformer for when you want to hit 500+ volts. Do i have anything to worry about at 84V with this scenario?
How does a dimmer work? I've seen ones rated at 500W so i'd try that if it could work
How does a dimmer work? I've seen ones rated at 500W so i'd try that if it could work
On looking at the schematics, I would say that the resistor is only used to reduce power using their hi/lo switch. I always wondered why these bulbs are rated at 82v...
Basically the diode and fuse should be enough...
http://www.kmr.com/manuals/dukane/3127/3127_05.htm
I started with the sunsplash 4123 (the lower diagram) which uses an FXL. I found the bulbs going cheap for about $6.50 on yahoo shopping:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cousinsvideo/fxlprojlam.html
I had the variac lying around, and used it to soften the hit to the bulb at turn-on: the bulb's resistance is lower when it is cold, and it draws a current spike for a fraction of a second until it heats up. In that fraction of a second, it gets much hotter than normal, and is most likely to blow at this time...
I didn't notice much of an improvement in lifespan, though, and at ~ $6 a pop, it probably isn't worth the effort.
Bill.
Basically the diode and fuse should be enough...
http://www.kmr.com/manuals/dukane/3127/3127_05.htm
I started with the sunsplash 4123 (the lower diagram) which uses an FXL. I found the bulbs going cheap for about $6.50 on yahoo shopping:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cousinsvideo/fxlprojlam.html
I had the variac lying around, and used it to soften the hit to the bulb at turn-on: the bulb's resistance is lower when it is cold, and it draws a current spike for a fraction of a second until it heats up. In that fraction of a second, it gets much hotter than normal, and is most likely to blow at this time...
I didn't notice much of an improvement in lifespan, though, and at ~ $6 a pop, it probably isn't worth the effort.
Bill.
Hell at 6$ a pop i dont care......cheapest i saw was 10$.....and the guy gave me 3 extra bulbs.....i know i can easily fix this......now to sell my other 2 projectors for parts and go up to a svga
Bill-----its been a while since i did solid state work. Is a half wave rectifier simply a diode on one end of the AC? Thats what the schematic looks like, but it cant be that simple....is it? If not, just tell me what i need to do to do the half wave rectification.
Thanks
Eric
Thanks
Eric
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