Anyone else build a pair of Shakti Hallographs?

[tom1356]

I just went through the Shakti homepage. I have never seen so much fraud concentrated in one place....we are talking 100% BS, please Frank, go have a look......im sure you will agree.

http://www.shakti-innovations.com/buy.htm



Magura🙂

While you were there did you notice this picture?
Hmm... who has more credibility you or Steve??

 

[Magura]

After this picture have been published....I believe a number of people would say that I am.


Magura🙂

EDIT:

That is if Steve isnt giving it the thumbs up for its value as firewood....after all it is hardwood, and should be adequately dry.

EDIT 2:

BTW. didnt it occour to you that Steve could be paid for this????

You truly are naive!!!

Nobody does stuff like that for free, anybody whom ever have been launching a product knows that, and if youre willing to pay, allmost anybody will say anything about any product.

 

[Magura]

And btw, if you've never been through Alex Chiu's site (www.alexchiu.com), it's worth a few minutes.

Actually Alex even offers 90 days guarantee of eternal life....thats more than any of the other voodoo stuff ive seen offers 😉

So thanks for the link SY, my life is now guaranteed to be eternal for the following 90 days 😀

Magura🙂

 

[tom1356]

Are you a solopsist?

Isn't everyone a little?

Then you admit that many of the changes that "amaze" you by improving your system may in fact be based on the placebo effect?

If so than I am not the only one feeling its effects.

I have news for you as well... electronic instruments are orders of magnitude more sensitive than our ears. That your ears are the "most sensitive measuring equipment known to man" is just a myth. A myth just like that we only use 10% of our brains, or a dozen other similar ones.

Why do you let instruments listen to your system? Try your ears for a change.

No, I don't know how they work because I have neither conducted nor reviewed a properly controlled test to determine that. I can surmise, however, based on the body of knowledge gathered thus far and applying the tenet of Occam's Razor, that the effect you perceive is due to psychological mechanisms, not physical ones.

With all due respect to Occam sometimes hoof beats are zebras.

RHosch:

This thread have been mud slinging most of the time, Tom started out being rather rude sometime yesterday, PD went personal and so forth...its not just you whos getting personal attacks. PD pretty much called me a narrowminded moron yesterday for not swallowing this stuff raw.

Take this thread for what it is.


Magura🙂

I was rude?... you posted on a thread you had no business posting on.
You implied I was either stupid or a liar.
If your lap dog SY wasn't chief censor here you would see rude.

 

[Magura]

Have any of you watched the movie called the 51st state??

It just popped up that there was a quite good paralel 😉

POS anyone???

Magura🙂

 

[Magura]

You implied I was either stupid or a liar.
If your lap dog SY wasn't chief censor here you would see rude.

I implied that somebody had been making you believe in something that has no chance to be true.

And BTW. SY is a lap monkey....nooot


Magura🙂

EDIT:

And BTW, rude isnt exactly implying intelligense.

 

[tom1356]

EDIT 2:

BTW. didnt it occour to you that Steve could be paid for this????

You truly are naive!!!

Nobody does stuff like that for free, anybody whom ever have been launching a product knows that, and if youre willing to pay, allmost anybody will say anything about any product.

You think everybody is as spineless and immoral as you are?
Do you think he just might have heard them as I did and likes them as I did?

Have you forgotten you have never heard them?

 

[fdegrove]

Hi,

While you were there did you notice this picture?

Where, o where, have I seen that pic before?

BTW, did someone finally take the guys' fingerprint or is he still waiting?

Just kidding folks,😉

 

[Magura]

You think everybody is as spineless and immoral as you are?
Do you think he just might have heard them as I did and likes them as I did?

In an ideal world youd be right, unfortunately its buisness, and in this case the dirtier variety of it...marketing. Its got ZIP to do with moral or spine, but cold cash.

Ive been through this stuff a couple of times with different products....trust me, anybody you see in any sort of marketing is paid for it, and rather well that is. 10 grand is little in this matter.

Now lets try again, if somebody offered you 10 grand, or even 20 for that kind of matter.....would you not accept the offer?

I have seen examples of people writing reviews about ithems they had never even seen....thats how buisness works, and in particular marketing.

Magura🙂

 

[tom1356]

Now lets try again, if somebody offered you 10 grand, or even 20 for that kind of matter.....would you not accept the offer?

I have seen examples of people writing reviews about ithems they had never even seen....thats how buisness works, and in particular marketing.

Magura🙂

You think someones reputation could be bought for so little?
You are the naive one.

 

[Magura]

I have personally seen people be "bought" for even less on a few occasions, selling their reputation.

Anybody who cares about their reputation must have been paid rather well for something like what Steve have done here, I agree. The 10 grand figure was also just a low number...as I wrote " 10 grand is little in this matter", it could easily be a much bigger figure.

Magura🙂

 

[SY]

If your lap dog SY wasn't chief censor here you would see rude.

Arf! Arf!

 

[Magura]

According to my experience, people have to have very little interest in money to not be somewhat flexible when it comes to the actual truth, when a figure above 10 grand is mentioned.

Magura🙂

 

[SY]

I note that the Q-Ray bracelet also has celebrity endorsers.

 

[Magura]

I note that the Q-Ray bracelet also has celebrity endorsers.

Hmm...wonder if they also just begged to be part of the marketing, or they maybe have been paid a "little" ???


Magura🙂

 

[jam]

Will this thread ever end..........................😀




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[Magura]

Hey Jam, join the madness 😀

 

[jam]

This is a warning!

I don't think so.................😀

 

[tom1356]

Will this thread ever end..........................😀

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For my part...it ends here.

 

[Peter Daniel]

Tom started out being rather rude sometime yesterday, PD went personal and so forth...its not just you whos getting personal attacks. PD pretty much called me a narrowminded moron yesterday for not swallowing this stuff raw.

I am very much tempted to use till's expression:

for everyone what he deserves...

...but I will not.

I would like to see where exactly I "pretty much called you a narrowminded moron". Please provide a quote.

OTOH, you and Mr Fitzpatrick, acted very childishly right from the beginning, without any respect for efforts of others. Your rude behaviour and lack of understanding for never ending quest for better sound is a shame to diyAudio, which I have to remind you once again, features in its logo the expression: "projects by the fanatics, for the fanatics".

Obviously, majority of people who spoke in this thread, don't qualify as fanatics, and I'd rather described them as armchair critics. I don't even know why you actually spoke here, as the person who opened this thread was specifically asking "If anyone built a pair of Shaktis?"

So if you don't have anything constructive to add, please keep away from this thread. This is a formal moderator's warning. I don't want to go as far as applying a formal Citation, but it seems like this might be the only way to let people speak freely on this board, without being afraid of naysayers, whose favourite passtime is critisizing the efforts of others.