They are 12" kickers and they have foam surround with a cloth dust cap with just the word KICKER in yellow. Any idea of the box size they need and the wattage? thanks in advance
Gen I
1993-96 ish
250 watts for 12" (clamed 500 peak....that was pushing it)
1.5 cf per sealed only
Ground breaking speaker, stitched surround, great sounding....good value for the money...even back then.
-JH
1993-96 ish
250 watts for 12" (clamed 500 peak....that was pushing it)
1.5 cf per sealed only
Ground breaking speaker, stitched surround, great sounding....good value for the money...even back then.
-JH
If I remember correctly, those kickers were similar to comps. You'll need 1.5-2.0 cubic feet sealed. Ideally, 1.75 cubic feet.
They made the foam surrounds but they had separation issues where the foam was glued to the cone so they started stitching them. So this would be a second version. We used them in bandpasses and SMALL sealed boxes. The small boxes were with servo controlled amps so not a typical setup. LOTs of stress on the surrounds in BP and with the servo's that is why we were so happy to see the stitching.
More often than not they were paired with Linear Power amps to compete with the Fosgate amp/sub combos.
Yes they were VERY good sounding woofers. Musical unlike today's which are just loud.
More often than not they were paired with Linear Power amps to compete with the Fosgate amp/sub combos.
Yes they were VERY good sounding woofers. Musical unlike today's which are just loud.
skooter:
Got a model#? I have an old spec sheet or two laying around.
Warning - unnecessary rambling:
The company was known as Stillwater Designs back then, made a name for themselves building their "Kicker" boxes for pickups and hatchbacks. Mostly used 6-1/2" woofers with 10" foam passive padiator weighted with a corrugated cardboard circle, and little piezo horn tweeters. They had great punchy midbass (the Kicker, get it?), but not as much low bass as the 8" boxes from their competitors.
They jumped in the seperates arena heavily around '85. IIRC, the original line of woofers was re-introduced as "Competition" when the "Free Air" line was introduced a year or two later.
troystg:
What kind of servos were ya'll using way back then?
Got a model#? I have an old spec sheet or two laying around.
Warning - unnecessary rambling:
The company was known as Stillwater Designs back then, made a name for themselves building their "Kicker" boxes for pickups and hatchbacks. Mostly used 6-1/2" woofers with 10" foam passive padiator weighted with a corrugated cardboard circle, and little piezo horn tweeters. They had great punchy midbass (the Kicker, get it?), but not as much low bass as the 8" boxes from their competitors.
They jumped in the seperates arena heavily around '85. IIRC, the original line of woofers was re-introduced as "Competition" when the "Free Air" line was introduced a year or two later.
troystg:
What kind of servos were ya'll using way back then?
Wow @ the Servo photo. I haven't seen one of those since high school. I gave Gerald Ognibene a lot of my hard earned money back in the good old days!
Well he retired and I still harass him as much as possible. 😀
He was building a line array with Scan Speak Revelators...
Can you say "cha ching" ?
He was building a line array with Scan Speak Revelators...
Can you say "cha ching" ?I need to give Gerald a call and possibly visit him next time I go to see family in Abbeville! I wonder if I can still get my hands on one of those servo units?
Jonny-
Now come on, you can't have a signature like that and NOT have a picture of you "at speed" in / on the vehicle....
As for the time line, no worries, notice I didn't actually put a year reference. I know what I was doing when those came out, but I have no idea what year it was.. They all sorta blend together longer than 20 back...
0ldSch00lf00l-
Mr. Erath the Engineer who designed that Servo passed away last week at the age of 91.. 🙁 He built me a new version of that circuit for my home stereo about 4 yrs ago.
Mr. Gerald probably still has the parts for the car servo but I doubt he has one assembled. But if I know him he would be glad to make one to get rid of surplus stuff sitting around now that he is retired.
Now come on, you can't have a signature like that and NOT have a picture of you "at speed" in / on the vehicle....
As for the time line, no worries, notice I didn't actually put a year reference. I know what I was doing when those came out, but I have no idea what year it was.. They all sorta blend together longer than 20 back...
0ldSch00lf00l-
Mr. Erath the Engineer who designed that Servo passed away last week at the age of 91.. 🙁 He built me a new version of that circuit for my home stereo about 4 yrs ago.
Mr. Gerald probably still has the parts for the car servo but I doubt he has one assembled. But if I know him he would be glad to make one to get rid of surplus stuff sitting around now that he is retired.
/\ now you guys have me curious about those "servos", just what were they used for and how do they work? I remember hearing about them back in the 80's and I've heard about similar circuits in some home audio subs. Do those "servos" use the same concept kenwood was using in their high end car amps that had the seperate two wires for monitoring the woofer's performance?
And BTW, Jonny's changed his sig lately to 2x. Looks like your were successful this summer, Congratulations!
It also looks like the X1/9 was reflowed... not even a beltline to identify it's origin. Very neat.
Yeah, me too. I've beat my brains out and just can NOT remember even a photo of it.
Looking at the connections, it appears to create a feedback loop around the amp? Does it require a DVC woofer, or just work straight off the amp/woofer connection?
Very curious.
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