Ah, the famous cow test used by all serious wellington-booted audiophiles but is it statistically significant 🙂 How many cows does it require & what size milk yield is significant!
You missed the point of my link to the other thread. SY's system is perfect (to him) as far as reproducing what the mike is picking up (not what the live event sounds like). As I said there are a number of possible explanations for this but the most charitable one is that it's the mike(s) that are the cause of a reproduced event not sounding like the live event!
You missed the point of my link to the other thread. SY's system is perfect (to him) as far as reproducing what the mike is picking up (not what the live event sounds like). As I said there are a number of possible explanations for this but the most charitable one is that it's the mike(s) that are the cause of a reproduced event not sounding like the live event!
I design chamber-style PA systems, and I always test them on venues. Yes, records differ from live performances. Why? It is obvious: reverberation. It will be always different. However, when reproduced in the same environment through the same speaker, with the same EQ settings, it is almost impossible to tell the difference.
Edit: I mean voices & acoustic guitars, of course!
Edit: I mean voices & acoustic guitars, of course!
Well, you haven't been listening to good speakers! 😀
Yes, they can. It's rare, but when it happens it's a wonderful thing and you hear it right away. I work (and grew up) around enough live music to immediately recognize it when I hear.
It can be done. Tho for many, that does not really seem to be the goal.
This a perfect 'blind test'. The cows are not effected by the 'look' of the sound device, but by its SOUND, and there is a measurable criterion as to how much they 'appreciate' the sound. IF the omission of ANY radio kept production high, then it would be a NEGATIVE attribute of the solid state radio that would have effected milk production. However, if the cows did better with the old vacuum tube radio playing, then they liked the sound for some reason. In any case, this is how discoveries are made in science, believe it or not.
Yes, it is perfect blind test for deaf people: if they don't hear what sounds more real, and if they don't trust people who hear better, there is a chance they would believe that caws are not biased.
This is true, Wavebourn, but it should be a valid test to imply unconscious 'stress' factors due to higher order distortion or something else. The problem is that these so called 'deaf people' that hear no difference are often highly educated, even professors, and they have their hearing tested and it seems OK. It seems that they are 'immune' to the negative factors, whatever they are, and therefore tell the rest of us that we are 'crazy' or 'crooks'. ;-)
I know this is maybe drifting OT a bit, but I'm from a farming/dairy background. Cows are very much creatures of habit, each with their own personality. Don't laugh OK!! But having a radio in the milking parlour certainly makes a difference - it quietens them down and even the angry ones (the ones that will kick) are more calm. And anecdotally, music is better than talk radio....
maybe they would be good blind test subjects!! The Far Side gets closer and closer every day!!
maybe they would be good blind test subjects!! The Far Side gets closer and closer every day!!
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Do you mean they can be trained to prefer heavy metal and crossover distortions?
Good for a laugh..cows
It is a genuine story, I think that cows would make a better test specimens than the audio league of gentlemen.
I think it was a classical music station...LOL
I wonder if they would start dancing with a bit of heavy metal.
SY needs cows.
Regards
M. Gregg
It is a genuine story, I think that cows would make a better test specimens than the audio league of gentlemen.
I think it was a classical music station...LOL
I wonder if they would start dancing with a bit of heavy metal.
SY needs cows.
Regards
M. Gregg
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That's good... But we face another problem: some people may not be smart enough to understand the value of such cow-tests because cows can't pass pre-screening tests answering questions, in order to be statistically-correctly pre-selected.
Cow posts are not OT, they are very valid, if we speak of unbiased tests of how close to reality reproduction sounds.
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