Harry is right on about this... I started with circuitmaker (very simple interface) and built the balanced zen line stage (very simple circuit). I then modified it to add current sources and cascodes. It took me a while to figure out how to get the zen circuit to simulate- 99% of the time it is an error or lack of understanding on my part. It can be frustrating to try and figure out why a circuit isn't doing exactly what you wanted it to, but I have found it's a great learning tool at the same time.
rtirion - Ooops, missed that one. Thank you for that. The point I was trying to make is that posting schematics is essential to these DIY discussions - if you like, schematics are the bones on which the verbal discussion hangs. My point was, why not extend this to posting sims too, encouraging fellow DIYerse to better understand the operation of these circuits.rtirion said:
Harry - Agree with you, but having tried about five different sims programs (currently using Protel), I have had problems in these areas:HarryHaller said:
- the schematic design user interface (to me not very intuitive)
- managing component libraries and models
- spice convergence
- route tracing completion
- program stability
But, maybe that's just me 🙁
Well done!!! - the part I was referring to was of course down at the bottom (having asked about the availability of 44 different cheeses)*:HarryHaller said:
"Customer: (deliberately) Have you in fact got any cheese here at all.
Owner: Yes,sir.
Customer: Really?
(pause)
Owner: No. Not really, sir.
...."
(You had to be there, of course)
Yes, and I think we'd be up for the full half hour here !!! 😀HarryHaller said:
Cheers
Nix
*Red Leicester, Tilsit, Caerphilly, Bel Paese, Red Windsor, Stilton, Ementhal, Gruyere, Norweigan Jarlsburg, Lipta, Lancashire, White Stilton, Danish Brew, Double Goucester, Cheshire, Dorset Bluveny, Brie, Roquefort, Pol le Veq, Port Salut, Savoy Aire, Saint Paulin, Carrier de lest, Bres Bleu, Bruson, Camenbert, Camenbert, Gouda, Edam, Case Ness, Smoked Austrian, Japanese Sage Darby, Wensleydale, Greek Feta, Gorgonzola, Parmesan, Mozarella, Paper Cramer, Danish Bimbo, Czech sheep's milk, Venezuelan Beaver Cheese, Cheddar, 'Illchester, Limburger
Misplaced this thread...couldn't remember the title.
Harry,
Actually, I resigned as Moderator over a month ago. My life got a little too complicated and it was mainly a figurehead position anyway.
Grey
Harry,
Actually, I resigned as Moderator over a month ago. My life got a little too complicated and it was mainly a figurehead position anyway.
Grey
CircuitMaker I have, with Sims
But
almost never care or NEED to use it.
Others might.
My Brain is a BIG BOLD simulator.
Can almost fool my SELF
sometimes....
Catch it.
Practise on the WIND
then follow me will be the Cake
TOP of AN ICEBERG,
we say in Sweden
You have seen NOTHING yet
how low must I sink ??????
gro
SteveG said:
But
almost never care or NEED to use it.
Others might.
My Brain is a BIG BOLD simulator.
Can almost fool my SELF
sometimes....
Catch it.
Practise on the WIND
then follow me will be the Cake
TOP of AN ICEBERG,
we say in Sweden
You have seen NOTHING yet
how low must I sink ??????
gro
Hi,
Sorry it took a while before I read this thread. I use a circuitmaker SPICE simulator all the time. Because I am not educated as an EE this software package has helped me alot about analog circuits design. It is very usefull to evaluate a new idea or to calculate some basic features.
When peolpe say: don't simulate just build it; they do not realise that a simulator, allthough not acurate, is propably more acurate than most measuring tools that hobbyist can use.
Some people might say: Don't simulate nor measure just build and listen. Well, designing a amplifier and only use listening trials is too time comsuming and not realistic.
I advice to use a simulator to get a feeling for the working of your circuit. Circuitmaker is very, very easy to use. It will be very educative to learn the programm and draw the amp circuit your self.
Goodluck,
Thijs
Sorry it took a while before I read this thread. I use a circuitmaker SPICE simulator all the time. Because I am not educated as an EE this software package has helped me alot about analog circuits design. It is very usefull to evaluate a new idea or to calculate some basic features.
When peolpe say: don't simulate just build it; they do not realise that a simulator, allthough not acurate, is propably more acurate than most measuring tools that hobbyist can use.
Some people might say: Don't simulate nor measure just build and listen. Well, designing a amplifier and only use listening trials is too time comsuming and not realistic.
I advice to use a simulator to get a feeling for the working of your circuit. Circuitmaker is very, very easy to use. It will be very educative to learn the programm and draw the amp circuit your self.
Goodluck,
Thijs
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