I've got +in and -in connected together, should they also be grounded ?
Good point. If you built the amp according to the schematic in post 12, the +IN should be grounded via R2, sort of. However, -IN will be floating, since you disconnected the feedback and C1 does not pass any DC. Sorry, I forgot about this, because I didn't use C1 in my Alephs... Please do the following (for testing purposes with the feedback loop disconnected):
* Connect both +IN and -IN to GND
* Put a jumper wire across C1 to establish a DC reference to GND for -IN
* Repeat the VGS measurements. If you get different numbers as before, report them here. If the numbers are the same, see below.
OK R16 - R19 all measure at 0.5R within the limitations of my meter.
VR16 = 418mV
VR17 = 407mV
VR18 = 400mV
VR19 = 424mV
This looks about right, although the MOSFET pairs are not perfectly balanced. But they should be okay as it is.
With +ve lead to S and -ve lead to G
I am not sure what you mean by this.
VGS Q7 = -4.48V
VGS Q8 = -4.46V
VGS Q5 = -4.59V
VGS Q6 = -4.60V
So the amp does not want Q7/Q8 to turn on as much as Q5/Q6.
I have not read all previous posts, so I may be repeating things... The DC idle point of Q7/Q8 is controlled by the voltage across R7//R7', which in turn is determined by the R7//R7' resistance and the current through R7//R7'.
Please check:
(1) What is the resistance of R7//R7' (use your DVM to measure it with the amp turned off)?
(2) What is the DC bias current of the input stage?
(2a) Measure the resistance of R8//R8' (amp turned off)
(2b) Measure the voltage drop across R8//R8' (amp turned on)
(2c) Calculate the current from 2a and 2b
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With RED lead to Source and BLACK lead to Gate.
I was just establishing polarity of the readings that I took.
I was just establishing polarity of the readings that I took.
I tested every component before it was installed so I'm pretty confident that R8 will be 1K0, as advised this is a fixed resistor.
I can't see the silk screen on the board with the components installed, which one is R8 ?
R8 is right under the silkscreen lettering “LTP Bias.” It’s that green resistor you have installed.
Best,
Anand.
In circuit R7 measures about 520-550R depending on which way the leads are applied.
That's not just R7, but R7//R7', right?
(R7 is the fixed resistor and R7' is the trimpot, and they are connected in parallel.)
Q2 (E) to V+ measures 960R in circuit.
That would be R8//R8'. Now that's interesting... R8=1k (fixed) and R8'=0-2k (trimpot) according to the schematic. Therefore R8//R8' cannot be higher than 670 Ohm. However, your 960 Ohm value should give approximately 10 mA current through Q2, which is about right. Let's leave that as it is for the moment.
Anyway, please continue as I wrote before (with the feedback resistor disconnected):
(1) Connect the inputs to GND and put a jumper across C1
(2) Measure the Vgs voltages at the power MOSFETS again
(3) Measure the voltages across R8//R8'
I've reconnected R4 and after about a minute I can get the output to settle to about 600mV. There is a horrendous period at turn on when the output is almost full rail.
It was stable, I've not touched anything and now its wandering again slowly increasing through -3.5V
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