Not sure if this is allowed here but I'm having a bit of issues with my CPU/processor
A one statement. My CPU is old so that may be a factor (not sure how old)
I am somehow able to run Crysis 2 playable although at a low framerate but consistent.
Yet I am not able to run a simple 2D game with no physics in it without a lot of stuttering problems (game is called Open Hexagon or Super Hexagon)
A lot of screen tearing so I'm definitally getting a high framerate
Yet the game stutters unplayably and is not enjoyable and sometimes impossible because I die every time the game stutters because my user input doesn't register when I attempt to click a mouse button usually at the time the game stutters
My cpu specifications are as follows
CPU name Intel Atom 230
speed 1.6ghz
Hyperthreaded 1 physical core 2 logical threads
Average temperature -255*C to 72* C
Playing Crysis 2 has no stuttering issues at all
I can also run Halo 2 for the PC without any issues playably including halo 1 and Crysis 1 And yes. Minecraft also runs okay (but not that great)
My gpu is overkill compared to my CPU spec's
Gpu Nvidia ION DirectX 10.0 IGP
Core clock 613mhz Shader clock 1250mhz Memory clock 1066mhz
Pixel fillrate 9.8G Texture fillrate 2.5G
Memory Size 512mb (over 2GB of Total memory size)
2Gb DDR2 System Ram
Hard drive 160GB RPM unknown atm will update when I find out
Operating system Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3
My moms computer has the exact same processor. Same operating system. And only 1GB of DDR2 system ram
But she has an intel GMA 945 And running Super Hexagon and Open Hexagon never stutter even though her graphics card is extremely limited compared to mine And she even has bloatware and whatever else installed
Where'as I have absolutely nothing unnessesary for gaming installed no special tools or game recorders either And I don't have any bloatware installed and I don't have an anti-virus running in the background or even installed and I checked with anti-malwareBytes and it came out clean
I even ran a rootkit check my entire computer came out 100% clean
I also tried AVG and it came up with a zip folder with a picture of my cat in it (Not really but My system is clean from what I can tell)
So I have no clue what's causing the stuttering. I definitely think my processor has some weird issue but I'm not sure what could be causing it
I have an Acer Aspire R1600 NetTop computer model
Activated Genuine Windows XP Untouched iso clean install using product sticker on side of my machine
If this is not allowed please tell me so i know better next time not to ask this kind of question thanks! 😀
A one statement. My CPU is old so that may be a factor (not sure how old)
I am somehow able to run Crysis 2 playable although at a low framerate but consistent.
Yet I am not able to run a simple 2D game with no physics in it without a lot of stuttering problems (game is called Open Hexagon or Super Hexagon)
A lot of screen tearing so I'm definitally getting a high framerate
Yet the game stutters unplayably and is not enjoyable and sometimes impossible because I die every time the game stutters because my user input doesn't register when I attempt to click a mouse button usually at the time the game stutters
My cpu specifications are as follows
CPU name Intel Atom 230
speed 1.6ghz
Hyperthreaded 1 physical core 2 logical threads
Average temperature -255*C to 72* C
Playing Crysis 2 has no stuttering issues at all
I can also run Halo 2 for the PC without any issues playably including halo 1 and Crysis 1 And yes. Minecraft also runs okay (but not that great)
My gpu is overkill compared to my CPU spec's
Gpu Nvidia ION DirectX 10.0 IGP
Core clock 613mhz Shader clock 1250mhz Memory clock 1066mhz
Pixel fillrate 9.8G Texture fillrate 2.5G
Memory Size 512mb (over 2GB of Total memory size)
2Gb DDR2 System Ram
Hard drive 160GB RPM unknown atm will update when I find out
Operating system Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3
My moms computer has the exact same processor. Same operating system. And only 1GB of DDR2 system ram
But she has an intel GMA 945 And running Super Hexagon and Open Hexagon never stutter even though her graphics card is extremely limited compared to mine And she even has bloatware and whatever else installed
Where'as I have absolutely nothing unnessesary for gaming installed no special tools or game recorders either And I don't have any bloatware installed and I don't have an anti-virus running in the background or even installed and I checked with anti-malwareBytes and it came out clean
I even ran a rootkit check my entire computer came out 100% clean
I also tried AVG and it came up with a zip folder with a picture of my cat in it (Not really but My system is clean from what I can tell)
So I have no clue what's causing the stuttering. I definitely think my processor has some weird issue but I'm not sure what could be causing it
I have an Acer Aspire R1600 NetTop computer model
Activated Genuine Windows XP Untouched iso clean install using product sticker on side of my machine
If this is not allowed please tell me so i know better next time not to ask this kind of question thanks! 😀
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Search the WEB a bit. XP has TONS of tuning that can be done. I still run 32 bit pro. It is a bit of trial and error. There are (were?) several tuning packages you could demo that would give you some hints. Even AVG has one. Which PCI buss what is sharing can be an issue. Are you ever swapping?
You only have 512Meg available out of 2Gig? Something is funny there. Does the graphics card use main memory? I only loose about 2Meg.
Now on my Mothers old Dell, no matter what I did, it was DOG slow. About half as fast as it should have been. Mostly disk IO. I never found a reason.
I can't comment on graphic games as the last time I played a computer game it was "Adventure". That the game in question is 2D may mean it is not programmed to take any advantage of the GPU, so it may be killing your main memory. Maybe not a bad computer, a bad program.
You only have 512Meg available out of 2Gig? Something is funny there. Does the graphics card use main memory? I only loose about 2Meg.
Now on my Mothers old Dell, no matter what I did, it was DOG slow. About half as fast as it should have been. Mostly disk IO. I never found a reason.
I can't comment on graphic games as the last time I played a computer game it was "Adventure". That the game in question is 2D may mean it is not programmed to take any advantage of the GPU, so it may be killing your main memory. Maybe not a bad computer, a bad program.
Have you had the heat sink off yet?
It may have dried out heat sink paste.
Also check the capacitors on the motherboard and power supply for bulging.
It may have dried out heat sink paste.
Also check the capacitors on the motherboard and power supply for bulging.
I'll get some pictures up so i can show you what the PC looks like that I have
GPU and CPU are embedded into the motherboard and the GPU has to take from the system ram it does not have its own dedicated RAM so it uses 512MB of ram out of the 2GB that's available
I have 1.5GB of system RAM free for applications and have never had a problem with multiple programs open at the same time
I just find this stuttering annoying.
And the bad thing about the heat sink is I have no thermal compound at all on it
GPU or CPU neither have the compound paste on it but temperature doesn't seem to affect the stuttering because it's still stable and doesn't get over 74* C no matter what so I don't know what's going on And I need a new heatsink anyways that's for sure. (it'd be easier just to buy a whole spanken new computer instead of digging through websites looking for this model of heatsink.)
My GPU die is HUGE by the way when I first saw it my eyes were like O_O Yet my CPU die is tiny compared the two.
I have also modded the fan to always run at full speed to lower the temperature from the normal 77-80* C that it used to get to
http://hothardware.com/articleimages/item1309/big_acer-aspire-revo-11.jpg
Mine looks like this but the heatsink is wrong in the picture Mine just has normal "Fins" instead of the small metal knobs that the picture depicts.
GPU and CPU are embedded into the motherboard and the GPU has to take from the system ram it does not have its own dedicated RAM so it uses 512MB of ram out of the 2GB that's available
I have 1.5GB of system RAM free for applications and have never had a problem with multiple programs open at the same time
I just find this stuttering annoying.
And the bad thing about the heat sink is I have no thermal compound at all on it
GPU or CPU neither have the compound paste on it but temperature doesn't seem to affect the stuttering because it's still stable and doesn't get over 74* C no matter what so I don't know what's going on And I need a new heatsink anyways that's for sure. (it'd be easier just to buy a whole spanken new computer instead of digging through websites looking for this model of heatsink.)
My GPU die is HUGE by the way when I first saw it my eyes were like O_O Yet my CPU die is tiny compared the two.
I have also modded the fan to always run at full speed to lower the temperature from the normal 77-80* C that it used to get to
http://hothardware.com/articleimages/item1309/big_acer-aspire-revo-11.jpg
Mine looks like this but the heatsink is wrong in the picture Mine just has normal "Fins" instead of the small metal knobs that the picture depicts.
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I doubt it is the hardware causing the issue. Configuration or poorly written software. One can always use the sledge hammer approach and go for a new system if you are fishing for a good excuse to do so.
Package size has little to do with the complexity of the chip inside. CPU's are usually about two generations newer technology. ( they use the old foundry for GPU's)
Not all heat sinks require thermal compound. Some have conformal pads. If yours is raw aluminum against the bare chip package, it would not hurt to add some paste. It won;t solve your problem, but can't hurt.
Again, you need to search the WEB for tuning tips. If this game is over the WEB, buffer sizes, block transfer sizes, cache config can make really big differences. About half of the running processes on XP you don't need. Look every one of them up.
Package size has little to do with the complexity of the chip inside. CPU's are usually about two generations newer technology. ( they use the old foundry for GPU's)
Not all heat sinks require thermal compound. Some have conformal pads. If yours is raw aluminum against the bare chip package, it would not hurt to add some paste. It won;t solve your problem, but can't hurt.
Again, you need to search the WEB for tuning tips. If this game is over the WEB, buffer sizes, block transfer sizes, cache config can make really big differences. About half of the running processes on XP you don't need. Look every one of them up.
It is a executeable game
My windows xp only has these processes listed running when idle in task manager
It may be just poorly written software that doesn't work well on low-end hardware
Explorer.EXE 0%
svchost.exe 0%
svchost.exe 0%
svchost.exe 0%
svchost.exe 0%
lsass.exe 0%
services.exe 0%
winlogon.exe 0%
csrss.exe 0%
smss.exe 0%
system 0%
System Idle Process 99%
And when I run a game the processes list doesn't change except for what game .exe i'm running
Super Hexagon.exe is added to the list of running processes in task manager and barely uses past 30% CPU sometimes yet it still stutters
Open Hexagon 1.92.exe uses 50-96% CPU and sometimes runs smoothly-ish but still stutters a little every couple of frames
On idle my system only uses 90-130MB ram with nothing running no program windows open or in the taskbar by the clock
Same list of running processes and playing the game doesn't stutter one bit on my moms computer with identical processor hardware and even worse IGP GPU intel GMA 945 (different motherboard but identical hardware except for the hard drive)
My windows xp only has these processes listed running when idle in task manager
It may be just poorly written software that doesn't work well on low-end hardware
Explorer.EXE 0%
svchost.exe 0%
svchost.exe 0%
svchost.exe 0%
svchost.exe 0%
lsass.exe 0%
services.exe 0%
winlogon.exe 0%
csrss.exe 0%
smss.exe 0%
system 0%
System Idle Process 99%
And when I run a game the processes list doesn't change except for what game .exe i'm running
Super Hexagon.exe is added to the list of running processes in task manager and barely uses past 30% CPU sometimes yet it still stutters
Open Hexagon 1.92.exe uses 50-96% CPU and sometimes runs smoothly-ish but still stutters a little every couple of frames
On idle my system only uses 90-130MB ram with nothing running no program windows open or in the taskbar by the clock
Same list of running processes and playing the game doesn't stutter one bit on my moms computer with identical processor hardware and even worse IGP GPU intel GMA 945 (different motherboard but identical hardware except for the hard drive)
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You shouldn't have 4 svchost.exe running.
There should be only one, that thing will bog any system down on it's own let alone 4 of them.
Kill 3 of them and see if that works, Windows XP had a nasty problem with those and I don't think that Microsoft really cares to do anything about it.
Windows 7 will run fine on your little system and it should solve the svchost.exe issue.
If you choose not to upgrade the OS then search around the net to figure out how to stop the multiple svchost problem for XP.
There should be only one, that thing will bog any system down on it's own let alone 4 of them.
Kill 3 of them and see if that works, Windows XP had a nasty problem with those and I don't think that Microsoft really cares to do anything about it.
Windows 7 will run fine on your little system and it should solve the svchost.exe issue.
If you choose not to upgrade the OS then search around the net to figure out how to stop the multiple svchost problem for XP.
I tried killing 3 of them and after killing the 3rd one it told me windows must shutdown because the RPC Server ended unexpectedly or something like that
And then it forced my computer to restart after 60 seconds countdown timer 🙁
For every computer I've used all had multiple svchost.exe's running
I think some of them are separate critical processes that have to be running so idk.
they've always been this way and usually on idle none of them use very much resources at all even all of them in total together
Windows 8.1 x64 Pro was tested on many different computers (both mine and my moms and a friends computer and each one had many more svchost.exe's running compared to windows xp (windows xp had only a quarter as many svchost.exe's compared to windows 8 on a fresh install for both)
I even tested windows 2000 once and it had several svchost.exe's running in taskmgr but i could not end those "Access denied"
And then it forced my computer to restart after 60 seconds countdown timer 🙁
For every computer I've used all had multiple svchost.exe's running
I think some of them are separate critical processes that have to be running so idk.
they've always been this way and usually on idle none of them use very much resources at all even all of them in total together
Windows 8.1 x64 Pro was tested on many different computers (both mine and my moms and a friends computer and each one had many more svchost.exe's running compared to windows xp (windows xp had only a quarter as many svchost.exe's compared to windows 8 on a fresh install for both)
I even tested windows 2000 once and it had several svchost.exe's running in taskmgr but i could not end those "Access denied"
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I would bet the problem is due to drivers for the card. Newer cards and drivers tend not to be as backward compatible as we want.
For example, my graphics card is incredibly powerful (TFLOPS of computing power), yet it drops below 10FPS if I turn antialiasing above 4x in any DirectX 9.0 game (Half Life 2, say). This card could easily run newer games on max settings, though. Turns out that the 'new architecture' doesn't favor DX9 and the drivers don't have 'native support' for DX9, causing it to run in some compatibility mode. Could be what is happening to you as well.
For example, my graphics card is incredibly powerful (TFLOPS of computing power), yet it drops below 10FPS if I turn antialiasing above 4x in any DirectX 9.0 game (Half Life 2, say). This card could easily run newer games on max settings, though. Turns out that the 'new architecture' doesn't favor DX9 and the drivers don't have 'native support' for DX9, causing it to run in some compatibility mode. Could be what is happening to you as well.
Strangely I can run Crysis 1 in DX9 very fastly easily playable in 640x480 to 1024x768
I can run a mix of low/medium settings in the graphical options but AA kills the game
DX10 works but is slower
I can somehow run Metro 2033 playably which is surprising
My GPU somehow supports 16x AA but that is entirely pointless since this gpu is not very powerful in the first place
Skyrim also tested and works on low/medium settings with a custom resolution of 640x480 without any performance enhancing mods installed playably no issue
I just have trouble running simple 2D physics/sandbox games or simple 2D platform/puzzle games that should be able to run on a PII it stutters for no apparent reason. and does not seem to be hard drive related because my OS boots before the Windows XP loading logo can even go past a second time
I am running the latest Nvidia driver 335.04 and i am having little to no issues with drivers.
I am wondering if maybe my CPU is just "dying" because it is a couple years old at least My monitor is even older and is starting to show signs of degrading (Lots of ghosting even when I clean the connection VGA cord the best I can even polishing it so it has the best contact) and I had to get dead thunderbugs out of the back of my screen that were "bugging" me
Should I just ditch this computer and save for a decent one? Because I'm thinking thats the only solution. and my mom and I are broke so we're living off the income from the government a couple hundred $ a month maybe 600-750$ just enough to pay bills and buy food we also live in section 8 housing with very low rent cost but the downside is we still can't afford to buy much besides what's needed to live. My mom's car is dead and has no carbattery in it because her friend took it for using in their boat.
I also notice an option in my bios "Spread Spectrum" (currently disabled) And hyperthreading (enabled right now)
I can run a mix of low/medium settings in the graphical options but AA kills the game
DX10 works but is slower
I can somehow run Metro 2033 playably which is surprising
My GPU somehow supports 16x AA but that is entirely pointless since this gpu is not very powerful in the first place
Skyrim also tested and works on low/medium settings with a custom resolution of 640x480 without any performance enhancing mods installed playably no issue
I just have trouble running simple 2D physics/sandbox games or simple 2D platform/puzzle games that should be able to run on a PII it stutters for no apparent reason. and does not seem to be hard drive related because my OS boots before the Windows XP loading logo can even go past a second time
I am running the latest Nvidia driver 335.04 and i am having little to no issues with drivers.
I am wondering if maybe my CPU is just "dying" because it is a couple years old at least My monitor is even older and is starting to show signs of degrading (Lots of ghosting even when I clean the connection VGA cord the best I can even polishing it so it has the best contact) and I had to get dead thunderbugs out of the back of my screen that were "bugging" me
Should I just ditch this computer and save for a decent one? Because I'm thinking thats the only solution. and my mom and I are broke so we're living off the income from the government a couple hundred $ a month maybe 600-750$ just enough to pay bills and buy food we also live in section 8 housing with very low rent cost but the downside is we still can't afford to buy much besides what's needed to live. My mom's car is dead and has no carbattery in it because her friend took it for using in their boat.
I also notice an option in my bios "Spread Spectrum" (currently disabled) And hyperthreading (enabled right now)
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Have you check your Hard drives performance?
HDD Pro or ATTO is good for that.
I have had a few that would cause the machine stop and seem like it was locking up before and that drive would eventually fail all together.
The last time that drive booted it would boot up and be working but the system would start stopping and start and stop again like the CPU was intermittently locking up.
Until one time it stopped all together and my mouse worked but no functions would work by clicking on them.
So, I rebooted it and it failed the boot.
I popped in a fresh drive and got it back to square one and plugged in the old drive hoping that I could get my data off of it and it was dead, although the platter was spinning.
The IDE controller and bios did not recognize that the drive was even hooked up.
This happened to me twice so far with two different drives.
Else, I have seen CPU's do this when they are getting to hot I would definitely get some heatsink compound on that thing!!!
My Opty 185 does this when the heatsink gets plugged up.
Also you may need to try an earlier Nividia video driver as well.
I have an older 7600GS in my Opty and if I try to use a newer version of the driver it does the same things that you are describing, sluggish video and jittery Lockups and such.
And I don't even play games on my machines.
I found this out oneday while I was benchmarking my machine as I was tuning it up for overclocking.
It was the 2D functions that were effected the most while I was using Passmark's "Performance Test" benchmark, This was very odd indeed.
Reverting back to the older version I had, fixed the video issue!!
The same thing happens if I let Microsoft update, update and change the video driver as well, and, I always have to revert back to the old one to fix it!!
Go Figure!!! 😉
jer 🙂
HDD Pro or ATTO is good for that.
I have had a few that would cause the machine stop and seem like it was locking up before and that drive would eventually fail all together.
The last time that drive booted it would boot up and be working but the system would start stopping and start and stop again like the CPU was intermittently locking up.
Until one time it stopped all together and my mouse worked but no functions would work by clicking on them.
So, I rebooted it and it failed the boot.
I popped in a fresh drive and got it back to square one and plugged in the old drive hoping that I could get my data off of it and it was dead, although the platter was spinning.
The IDE controller and bios did not recognize that the drive was even hooked up.
This happened to me twice so far with two different drives.
Else, I have seen CPU's do this when they are getting to hot I would definitely get some heatsink compound on that thing!!!
My Opty 185 does this when the heatsink gets plugged up.
Also you may need to try an earlier Nividia video driver as well.
I have an older 7600GS in my Opty and if I try to use a newer version of the driver it does the same things that you are describing, sluggish video and jittery Lockups and such.
And I don't even play games on my machines.
I found this out oneday while I was benchmarking my machine as I was tuning it up for overclocking.
It was the 2D functions that were effected the most while I was using Passmark's "Performance Test" benchmark, This was very odd indeed.
Reverting back to the older version I had, fixed the video issue!!
The same thing happens if I let Microsoft update, update and change the video driver as well, and, I always have to revert back to the old one to fix it!!
Go Figure!!! 😉
jer 🙂
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Real,
I kind of hate to suggest this, but maybe you should quit playing computer games and ... Ahem... get a job? I am one of those paying the taxes and I can't afford a new computer either. Why should you?
CPU's don't wear out as you are thinking.
I kind of hate to suggest this, but maybe you should quit playing computer games and ... Ahem... get a job? I am one of those paying the taxes and I can't afford a new computer either. Why should you?
CPU's don't wear out as you are thinking.
I did run a disk check and it came out perfectly as if my hard drive was brand new it passed the smart test and i did an extended test and it passed yet again and I have no hard drive errors that I can notice or find out and it told me i had 0 reallocated sectors when i went to check that
I can copy a large 6GB file fairly quickly without any unusual noises from my HDD
Only thing is after installing large programs my system seems sluggish for a while ram/virtual memory wise as if i had low amount of ram available.
Would it help if I bought a cheap 150-200GB SSD? I wouldn't mind if it was only 60-90GB really since I never have used up an entire disk before even when i have loads of things installed or lots of mp3's downloaded could that be a fix? and I really should get a brand new heatsink and fan and get some thermal paste but thats gonna cost alot and it would be more cost efficent to just buy a new computer. right? it'd be easier too.
I'll try down-dating my video driver and see if i get any interesting results and i'll check back here afterwards
My GPU voltage is abit high 1.0100v :O That could be lowered a lot and still be stable with a 450mhz stock core clock with alot lower temps Or it could be a lot of overclocking potential.
I can render an 1920x1200 16xAA image in Blender 2.49b in under 4 seconds with a glossy/transparent glass-like cube with a basic scene setup and the result is very fascinating each time! I was surprised how fast it could render whereas on a 2.9Ghz amd sempron single core it took like a whole minute a frame or more
I can copy a large 6GB file fairly quickly without any unusual noises from my HDD
Only thing is after installing large programs my system seems sluggish for a while ram/virtual memory wise as if i had low amount of ram available.
Would it help if I bought a cheap 150-200GB SSD? I wouldn't mind if it was only 60-90GB really since I never have used up an entire disk before even when i have loads of things installed or lots of mp3's downloaded could that be a fix? and I really should get a brand new heatsink and fan and get some thermal paste but thats gonna cost alot and it would be more cost efficent to just buy a new computer. right? it'd be easier too.
I'll try down-dating my video driver and see if i get any interesting results and i'll check back here afterwards
My GPU voltage is abit high 1.0100v :O That could be lowered a lot and still be stable with a 450mhz stock core clock with alot lower temps Or it could be a lot of overclocking potential.
I can render an 1920x1200 16xAA image in Blender 2.49b in under 4 seconds with a glossy/transparent glass-like cube with a basic scene setup and the result is very fascinating each time! I was surprised how fast it could render whereas on a 2.9Ghz amd sempron single core it took like a whole minute a frame or more
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An SSD will only help if you are swapping.
If the CPU reports it's temp is OK, then changing the heat sink is not going to solve your problem.
GPU's are very complex, and the software has to be written for them. If the "bad" game was not written to take advantage of the exact chipset you have, it could be slow. There is a lot of very poorly written software out there. Amazingly, much of it still single-threaded. We have a lot if idiot programmers who think enabling threads in the compiler is all it takes.
You are still trolling for conformation you need a new computer. Sorry. Why don't you play a different game?
If the CPU reports it's temp is OK, then changing the heat sink is not going to solve your problem.
GPU's are very complex, and the software has to be written for them. If the "bad" game was not written to take advantage of the exact chipset you have, it could be slow. There is a lot of very poorly written software out there. Amazingly, much of it still single-threaded. We have a lot if idiot programmers who think enabling threads in the compiler is all it takes.
You are still trolling for conformation you need a new computer. Sorry. Why don't you play a different game?
i think the smart idea would be just to get a new computer and stop dealing with a 2005 netbook 😛 if only I had a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars just laying around waiting to be spent..
If your hard drive is full and you have less than about 2Gb to 500MB of space left then you will have such issues as well.
You will have to delete some files in order to obtain more swap space.
I have run into the type of situation many times..
My main machine is an ole Opty 185 running at 2.9 Ghz with XP64 and it does every thing I need it to do as I am not a gamer.
It has been on for 24/7 for the last 4 years and has rarely ever been turned off. 🙂
I Have some P4's as well and I still use those too.
I do have a new FX-6300 but I only use that for programs that need the extra horsepower such a Spice, PCB Cad's and Visual Analyzer and such.
So unless your are about gaming and the Glory of benchmark scores you can get into a decent powerful system for around $400 now.
Personal, I wouldn't waste the money on a I3's or I5's compared the AMD's FX series, or, especially a the new Steam roller APU chips that are now available.
Newegg has a nice complete FX-6300 all-in-one now similar to mine in that price range.
Only I opted build my own with performance parts and it cost me $400 and could now be built for about $100 cheaper now as prices have dropped since then.
AMD's A-10 APU's is another great choice as it gives the FX series a run for the money with its Steamroller core.
But, You can't beat the FX series for its value especially if you have some extra parts just laying around that could be used.
Intel's are over priced.
But, They are what they are and if you want the best then your gonna pay for it.
Don't get me wrong as I certainly would like a nice I7 CPU but I built my whole machine for the cost of just one of those CPU's.
If your are running in to virtual memory issues than you will have to create some space or get a bigger hard drive.
SSD's are nice but running one in a Atom CPU based laptop won't justify the price or the performance of what they are capable of.
I have one in my moms FX-6100 and it is sad because she rarely even uses the thing....I sure could use it in mine !!!
Not to mention the XFX 6780 that she has in it as well, as I have an 7300GS in mine!!! 😉
But like I said it runs great for my 2D stuff and really nice with the 3D drawing programs that I have found running under Linux.
Especially when I have the CPU overclocked at 4.8Ghz.
It holds its own (if not better) to a now Defunct sandy bridge!!!
FWIW
jer 🙂
You will have to delete some files in order to obtain more swap space.
I have run into the type of situation many times..
My main machine is an ole Opty 185 running at 2.9 Ghz with XP64 and it does every thing I need it to do as I am not a gamer.
It has been on for 24/7 for the last 4 years and has rarely ever been turned off. 🙂
I Have some P4's as well and I still use those too.
I do have a new FX-6300 but I only use that for programs that need the extra horsepower such a Spice, PCB Cad's and Visual Analyzer and such.
So unless your are about gaming and the Glory of benchmark scores you can get into a decent powerful system for around $400 now.
Personal, I wouldn't waste the money on a I3's or I5's compared the AMD's FX series, or, especially a the new Steam roller APU chips that are now available.
Newegg has a nice complete FX-6300 all-in-one now similar to mine in that price range.
Only I opted build my own with performance parts and it cost me $400 and could now be built for about $100 cheaper now as prices have dropped since then.
AMD's A-10 APU's is another great choice as it gives the FX series a run for the money with its Steamroller core.
But, You can't beat the FX series for its value especially if you have some extra parts just laying around that could be used.
Intel's are over priced.
But, They are what they are and if you want the best then your gonna pay for it.
Don't get me wrong as I certainly would like a nice I7 CPU but I built my whole machine for the cost of just one of those CPU's.
If your are running in to virtual memory issues than you will have to create some space or get a bigger hard drive.
SSD's are nice but running one in a Atom CPU based laptop won't justify the price or the performance of what they are capable of.
I have one in my moms FX-6100 and it is sad because she rarely even uses the thing....I sure could use it in mine !!!
Not to mention the XFX 6780 that she has in it as well, as I have an 7300GS in mine!!! 😉
But like I said it runs great for my 2D stuff and really nice with the 3D drawing programs that I have found running under Linux.
Especially when I have the CPU overclocked at 4.8Ghz.
It holds its own (if not better) to a now Defunct sandy bridge!!!
FWIW
jer 🙂
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You made this conclusion a long time ago. No one here has said " of course" . So. now what?
A very good small desktop goes for about $400. Anything more is a luxury item.
i would suggest you to stop strugling w/ atom for games.just get something like core i5 equipped w/ either nvidia/amd gpus.and i wouldnt recommend fx series unless you need cores than its power (intel has more power on sIngle threaded.but i might be wrong for the new amd kaveri)
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A gen 4 i5 can be down to $500. Just bought one for my Mother. So, when are you going to quit playing games and get a job so you can afford one?
I'm not convinced an i5 is needed for gaming.
I'm on a mobile i3, plus an ATI graphics chipset. 8gb of RAM (plus 1gb dedicated for graphics), 320gb HDD.
It'll run something like Left 4 Dead 2 on full graphics settings, no issue with framerate.
FWIW, I suspect it might be worth upgrading the OS to Win7: I've heard its much friendlier to machines with lower performance than XP.
Chris
I'm on a mobile i3, plus an ATI graphics chipset. 8gb of RAM (plus 1gb dedicated for graphics), 320gb HDD.
It'll run something like Left 4 Dead 2 on full graphics settings, no issue with framerate.
FWIW, I suspect it might be worth upgrading the OS to Win7: I've heard its much friendlier to machines with lower performance than XP.
Chris
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