I don't know what you have studied in your life but I'm a electronic engineering
Just curious: in what EE school was Nyquist-Shannon not taught?
Just curious: in what EE school was Nyquist-Shannon not taught?
If you don't know the infinite spectrum is the output of the dac Nyquist Shannon is for
aliasing and it becomes important on ADC that you need a right analog filter on input to limit the band pass of your signal noting have to do with dac section
just pay 40000 dollars for year the university for know nothing,,,, USA ohi ohi....
The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong.
I try to tooking about the problem solving on this idea .... but you toking about nothing
about this type of solution ....
A turkey knows everything always judges the others ....
I try to tooking about the problem solving on this idea .... but you toking about nothing
I understand the topic well enough to tell you that it doesn't work.
Now you obviously don't. But instead of demonstrating something concrete you produce weird and confused sentences and throw out insults or ad hominem.
So I will make a very minimal request:
Generate some white noise at 44.1*n kHz, low pass filter it to <22.05 kHz, now take every n-th sample (to arrive at a 44.1 kHz rate) and
post an image
a) of the original signal and
b) of the difference (or error) to a NOS DAC output of the 44.1 kHz signal (which to make it simple is just repeating the last sample n-1 times) without additional low pass filters
You have Matlab, this should take you ~10 minutes.
PS: This will be largely a demonstration for yourself.
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Nos response
I don't need matlab for answer , if you have a stair-step on output of your dac
the impulse response is a rect and is frequency response is a sinc and you have
a complete deletion of any signal around fc in this case 44.1khz .
But i think this idea is interesting for real settling time of the dac output if is possible to
increase it the median of vout of any steps is too close to right value .
🙂
I don't need matlab for answer , if you have a stair-step on output of your dac
the impulse response is a rect and is frequency response is a sinc and you have
a complete deletion of any signal around fc in this case 44.1khz .
But i think this idea is interesting for real settling time of the dac output if is possible to
increase it the median of vout of any steps is too close to right value .
🙂
I don't need matlab for answer , if you have a stair-step on output of your dac
the impulse response is a rect and is frequency response is a sinc and you have
a complete deletion of any signal around fc in this case 44.1khz .
So you understand how the difference between these signal looks like (but can't or won't produce a simple graph showing it) and that adding a sine doesn't help.
Great. Finally some progress.
Forget settling time, you are just confusing yourself with it, and the above sentence is incomprehensible anyway.But i think this idea is interesting for real settling time of the dac output if is possible to
increase it the median of vout of any steps is too close to right value .
🙂
On psychical filter RC if you want increase run up time without change RC values you can
apply a 2 level stair step .
This trick i think works with the dac output of a stair step its output need time to reach
the end value , the additional signal tangles the output stage as I/V I think ....🙂
apply a 2 level stair step .
This trick i think works with the dac output of a stair step its output need time to reach
the end value , the additional signal tangles the output stage as I/V I think ....🙂
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So you are finally suggesting what I've said from the beginning: "oversampling".On psychical filter RC if you want increase run up time without change RC values you can
apply a 2 level stair step .

Good idea
Ok vecna is right with a small signal added to stair-step output is like a dither
on output of a filter but you need to modulate the signal added 🙂
Ok vecna is right with a small signal added to stair-step output is like a dither
on output of a filter but you need to modulate the signal added 🙂
Do you even know what dither is and why it is used?
This is analog elaboration not digital.... you even know what is the difference 🙂
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Dither - pretty much how some replies are on this thread🙂
The UK meaning of the word by the way.....
The UK meaning of the word by the way.....
This is analog elaboration not digital.... you even know what is the difference 🙂
So you don't, since we are talking about the output of a NOS DAC ...
So you don't, since we are talking about the output of a NOS DAC ...
But i can apply to the output of the dac an other signal.... 🙂
Sure, you can also put peanut butter on your DAC with the same result...
You clearly have no idea.
I will ask again: do you even know what dither is and why it is used?
You clearly have no idea.
I will ask again: do you even know what dither is and why it is used?
Just to be clear about this: he is suggesting adding "dither" to the output of a DAC? If so, this is about the best evidence you could have that he doesn't know what dither is.
Xnor,
learn from that guy --> http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/lounge/270011-shannon-ad-fc-2-tricks.html
LOOOL
<< few ideas but confused ones >> - let him go 😉
learn from that guy --> http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/lounge/270011-shannon-ad-fc-2-tricks.html
LOOOL
<< few ideas but confused ones >> - let him go 😉
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