I have Noticed is that there is really no Software that I can tell that is just Click and Buy on the Play store that allows you to purchase a Full Out 8 channel DSP that would require nothing but a CHEAP $15 dollar USB 7.1 sound card.
Nothing I can tell. sure there are custom software, but nothing easy that is just point click and run.
There is NO reason why all of us don't have access to any app like this. Almost ALL Mobile Platforms have some sort of GPU that can do Math for Processing. Just like a DSP. So that takes care of the Low Power Parts from even 2015.
With so much hardware reaching EOL? Its a great time to have something like this.
Almost ALL Android and Mobile stuff like Tablets have Wifi. That takes care of ANY bandwidth problems for piping audio and you always have Bluetooth for control or Wi-Fi or you can also do it directly via USB or ethernet with a simple OTG adapter cable. even the fire stick from Amazon support OTG.
it just boggles my mind with all the custom software out there , something like this does not exist.
it's not like there isn't a market for it. heck.
it can even be advertiser supported.
if anyone knows of anything like this I would love to hear about it.
if there's a way to make a custom USB sound driver I don't see why this should be such a problem. you shouldn't need root permissions for sound.
BTW? it should have an interface exactly like some of the commercial DSP software packages like from JL Audio or even some of the Chinese manufacturers which are basically copies of Dayton's DSP GUI thats just a copy of another Copy. Can't be that hard.
there are now at least a hundred devices that are no longer officially supported by Google anymore with software updates and security patches so there are a plethora of devices to use that would work perfect as the hardware host and are stable, low power and don't have to worry about some patch bricking the software for the Active DSP/Crossover software.
It does not have to be PERFECT. This would be a great tool to show kids what they can do with sound and a simple device that they may already have.
it might even open up Android style gaming for using extra speakers for sound effects might be kind of cool.
it's API could even be used for some sound based games,
imagine what you could do with a Android tablet and a haunted house with just multiple cheap USB cards connected to it and having sound routed around via these little zigbee devices which would connect to the tablet playing the sound is a person went by.
there are some days I wish I was just a decently good-looking woman because I could probably get something like this done in about a month.
but I am unfortunately a man.
and therefore I have to do everything myself.
let me also say that there is no substitution for great hardware and I really do think that a stand-alone bsp really is the way to go for many applications especially in the automotive environment.
but something like this should exist for at least testing purposes and other uses and basically just for fun. without the hassle and complexity of actually going through and rooting a device installing a custom kernel putting in custom code yada yada yada you guys understand when I'm saying?
Everyone likes ice cream
but no one wants to go actually build the cow in order to get it.
no one Minds paying a little bit for the ice cream but honestly I'm not going to go ahead and build the cow, let alone making the farm.
that's a Cron job if I ever seen one.
the GU I would be cool if it was skinnable that way you can install or add in your own custom images to the items that you have in your system. This would make a lot more sense for those that are visually impaired learners or just plain stupid people.
the default setting should come out of the box with the usual default speaker settings depending on whether it's a three-way sound card or a four-way sound card.
voice feedback and simple instructions that are honorable should be the goal as you can test channels and it said they're going back to the software package you could just use your voice and say yes the first speaker is okay or yes the second speaker is okay or yes this is the mid-range it is set up and then you would move through the process, all with the power of your voice for just a basic setup.
there should also be a physical freaking book that you can purchase and it should be really good. you know how you read a book and you can just see images from just reading it that's how this will should be laid out.
and it should have tons of illustrations.
each and also have a mascot like how audio control has one.
a comic book for limited-release would be kind of neat too.
and we would use some things like I identify as a transducer or I identify as a bi as I am Full Range. Etc. Just Humor of the times.
all control knobs and their contributors and all the graphics within the program should have photos or pictures of the developer,
there should be lots of Easter eggs in it just for fun.
it also should be mainly web browser based as a web browser based on established w3c web browsing standards of the internet shouldn't be able to go into depravity anytime soon and the standards should be well within reach of lasting the next 10 or 20 years for its interface.
the underlying bits should be basically almost like switches in real life where you operate a switch and it pushes some software at the back end that way it could be universally compatible and transportable within platforms.
anyting custom will just simply use a whole new DSP engine on the back end and DC engines or virtual boxes would be able to be switched out at will.
the most basic version of the software should be able to work perfectly well on something like a $9 mini Raspberry Pi or some super low power chipset or SOC.
there should be a simple button or setting within the app where you can have it tell you if there's something wrong with your setup if it detects something.
the default software setting and the free version should come with the default voice of some Indian guy you can pay to upgrade it to a good sounding Swedish if you so desire or a British man.
if someone tried to hack the code or try to Pirate something in it should by default play the Jack Sparrow theme song.
instead of the software becoming unusable after awhile it will simply just randomly start playing the oH Bill oh Bill oh Bill!!!! if you know what I mean.
if there's going to be some kind of official Hardware it should be some official kind of Hardware that there is plenty of that is abandoned where that would work really well that way we're actually helping the environment by reducing e-waste. that way you can get large bundles and huge items of stock for pennies on the dollar.
each item that we or the software package supports or that is officially for the software should also officially come with Hardware upgrades to help the modding Community basically make these boards better and passed them on for everyone.
there should also be presets for audiophile speaker cables and we should release them on April fools every year and we should featuring you cable simulator.
the joke is they all sound the same and do nothing...
the inner joke is all the proceeds actually go to funding development for the project.
a cool feature would be integration with something like ampme which is a program that is available on the App Store that allows two phones or Android devices to play the same audio at the same time so technically you could use two Android devices at the same time and their headphone outputs as actor crossovers.
sure it won't work perfectly and there's going to be some delay but again this is for training and fun purposes.
the main reason I'm bringing all this up is that with all the computer power and with all the so-called just make it easy with an app. one of the things that is not available is a guy that is specifically tailored for audio and digital signal processing and how normal people implemented in their daily lives.
further development would be to add things such as the video camera and it would basically scan the room and then it would mathematically determine other factors that would help such as room length width and so forth.
imagine scanning a driver and being able to read its barcode or its serial number or its manufacturer has model number and then automatically add tsp presets or crossover points for that driver or speaker set if the manufacturer publishes it to the database.
the best part about this is that you can still use your audio output of choice for example if that's HDMI or an HDMI receiver that would be perfect or if you happen to have a cheap 7.1 Channel sound card you can use that if you have a topping back or sheeiiit DAC you can use that too.
the best part is it's not just going to be audio aficionados who going to be using this. the video gaming Community could really use something like this and that really opens up a whole entire New Market and the penetration of having awareness of good quality sound in room Acoustics really will enhance everyone's lives because we'll certainly see better products coming out .
Nothing I can tell. sure there are custom software, but nothing easy that is just point click and run.
There is NO reason why all of us don't have access to any app like this. Almost ALL Mobile Platforms have some sort of GPU that can do Math for Processing. Just like a DSP. So that takes care of the Low Power Parts from even 2015.
With so much hardware reaching EOL? Its a great time to have something like this.
Almost ALL Android and Mobile stuff like Tablets have Wifi. That takes care of ANY bandwidth problems for piping audio and you always have Bluetooth for control or Wi-Fi or you can also do it directly via USB or ethernet with a simple OTG adapter cable. even the fire stick from Amazon support OTG.
it just boggles my mind with all the custom software out there , something like this does not exist.
it's not like there isn't a market for it. heck.
it can even be advertiser supported.
if anyone knows of anything like this I would love to hear about it.
if there's a way to make a custom USB sound driver I don't see why this should be such a problem. you shouldn't need root permissions for sound.
BTW? it should have an interface exactly like some of the commercial DSP software packages like from JL Audio or even some of the Chinese manufacturers which are basically copies of Dayton's DSP GUI thats just a copy of another Copy. Can't be that hard.
there are now at least a hundred devices that are no longer officially supported by Google anymore with software updates and security patches so there are a plethora of devices to use that would work perfect as the hardware host and are stable, low power and don't have to worry about some patch bricking the software for the Active DSP/Crossover software.
It does not have to be PERFECT. This would be a great tool to show kids what they can do with sound and a simple device that they may already have.
it might even open up Android style gaming for using extra speakers for sound effects might be kind of cool.
it's API could even be used for some sound based games,
imagine what you could do with a Android tablet and a haunted house with just multiple cheap USB cards connected to it and having sound routed around via these little zigbee devices which would connect to the tablet playing the sound is a person went by.
there are some days I wish I was just a decently good-looking woman because I could probably get something like this done in about a month.
but I am unfortunately a man.
and therefore I have to do everything myself.
let me also say that there is no substitution for great hardware and I really do think that a stand-alone bsp really is the way to go for many applications especially in the automotive environment.
but something like this should exist for at least testing purposes and other uses and basically just for fun. without the hassle and complexity of actually going through and rooting a device installing a custom kernel putting in custom code yada yada yada you guys understand when I'm saying?
Everyone likes ice cream
but no one wants to go actually build the cow in order to get it.
no one Minds paying a little bit for the ice cream but honestly I'm not going to go ahead and build the cow, let alone making the farm.
that's a Cron job if I ever seen one.
the GU I would be cool if it was skinnable that way you can install or add in your own custom images to the items that you have in your system. This would make a lot more sense for those that are visually impaired learners or just plain stupid people.
the default setting should come out of the box with the usual default speaker settings depending on whether it's a three-way sound card or a four-way sound card.
voice feedback and simple instructions that are honorable should be the goal as you can test channels and it said they're going back to the software package you could just use your voice and say yes the first speaker is okay or yes the second speaker is okay or yes this is the mid-range it is set up and then you would move through the process, all with the power of your voice for just a basic setup.
there should also be a physical freaking book that you can purchase and it should be really good. you know how you read a book and you can just see images from just reading it that's how this will should be laid out.
and it should have tons of illustrations.
each and also have a mascot like how audio control has one.
a comic book for limited-release would be kind of neat too.
and we would use some things like I identify as a transducer or I identify as a bi as I am Full Range. Etc. Just Humor of the times.
all control knobs and their contributors and all the graphics within the program should have photos or pictures of the developer,
there should be lots of Easter eggs in it just for fun.
it also should be mainly web browser based as a web browser based on established w3c web browsing standards of the internet shouldn't be able to go into depravity anytime soon and the standards should be well within reach of lasting the next 10 or 20 years for its interface.
the underlying bits should be basically almost like switches in real life where you operate a switch and it pushes some software at the back end that way it could be universally compatible and transportable within platforms.
anyting custom will just simply use a whole new DSP engine on the back end and DC engines or virtual boxes would be able to be switched out at will.
the most basic version of the software should be able to work perfectly well on something like a $9 mini Raspberry Pi or some super low power chipset or SOC.
there should be a simple button or setting within the app where you can have it tell you if there's something wrong with your setup if it detects something.
the default software setting and the free version should come with the default voice of some Indian guy you can pay to upgrade it to a good sounding Swedish if you so desire or a British man.
if someone tried to hack the code or try to Pirate something in it should by default play the Jack Sparrow theme song.
instead of the software becoming unusable after awhile it will simply just randomly start playing the oH Bill oh Bill oh Bill!!!! if you know what I mean.
if there's going to be some kind of official Hardware it should be some official kind of Hardware that there is plenty of that is abandoned where that would work really well that way we're actually helping the environment by reducing e-waste. that way you can get large bundles and huge items of stock for pennies on the dollar.
each item that we or the software package supports or that is officially for the software should also officially come with Hardware upgrades to help the modding Community basically make these boards better and passed them on for everyone.
there should also be presets for audiophile speaker cables and we should release them on April fools every year and we should featuring you cable simulator.
the joke is they all sound the same and do nothing...
the inner joke is all the proceeds actually go to funding development for the project.
a cool feature would be integration with something like ampme which is a program that is available on the App Store that allows two phones or Android devices to play the same audio at the same time so technically you could use two Android devices at the same time and their headphone outputs as actor crossovers.
sure it won't work perfectly and there's going to be some delay but again this is for training and fun purposes.
the main reason I'm bringing all this up is that with all the computer power and with all the so-called just make it easy with an app. one of the things that is not available is a guy that is specifically tailored for audio and digital signal processing and how normal people implemented in their daily lives.
further development would be to add things such as the video camera and it would basically scan the room and then it would mathematically determine other factors that would help such as room length width and so forth.
imagine scanning a driver and being able to read its barcode or its serial number or its manufacturer has model number and then automatically add tsp presets or crossover points for that driver or speaker set if the manufacturer publishes it to the database.
the best part about this is that you can still use your audio output of choice for example if that's HDMI or an HDMI receiver that would be perfect or if you happen to have a cheap 7.1 Channel sound card you can use that if you have a topping back or sheeiiit DAC you can use that too.
the best part is it's not just going to be audio aficionados who going to be using this. the video gaming Community could really use something like this and that really opens up a whole entire New Market and the penetration of having awareness of good quality sound in room Acoustics really will enhance everyone's lives because we'll certainly see better products coming out .
again I apologize for all the spelling errors.
another thing of note is that a lot of video game systems have a whole lot of horsepower that is simply not being put to use and would be perfect for an audio system that could easily do multiple channels of signal processing and it wouldn't even break a sweat.
even the original Xbox and PS2 not only had firewire outputs but also had optical outputs as well. I believe this is the same for the Xbox 360 which is nearing its end of life but it still supported by Microsoft. it even has USB ports ethernet and therefore you can do quite a bit with this box if something was to happen on this platform.
as time goes by a lot of video game systems will basically become E-Waste and again it'll take close to 10 or 20 years before they gain popularity or Niche status.
having something like this available to just about everyone would really open the doors for a lot of folks. the fact that we have literally millions if not billions of Home Theater receivers with perfectly good working amplifiers and of course all having HDMI we'll maintain a full Digital Signal chain along with a built-in amplifier.
with all the CPU and Chip shortages of the current date which seemingly is going to happen for the next four to five years, this should be a great way to reuse all that old Hardware that many people already own.
as it stands today HDMI 2.1, eARC can handle 32 channels of uncompressed audio, or up to 8 channels of 24-bit/192kHz audio per port. that means that even a Raspberry Pi 4 with dual HDMI has a capability of doing at least 16 channels.
provided that most speakers are only three way systems with a subwoofer this would also allow you to do some really cool things with bass shakers and other items that you want to install in your home theater system for example.
this would be a great use case for old home theater receivers that are at the older standard where they still support eight channels of a compressed audio however they don't support the newer video standards so this would allow reusing of older equipment that is still quite high quality in many cases.
seeing that most of our devices that are at least somewhat average mid to high-end support HDMI output this would be a perfect way to pipe a video and audio signal and do all the processing that is needed to get the high-quality signal out of your device.
with physical media going the way of the dodo with Blu-ray still being the last holdout for absolutely high-definition content at 4K, future video formats such as 8K in 10k are on the horizon and those will undoubtedly be served digitally.
you are still going to have the issue of audio routing and of course your speakers having the option of preferably running them active will ensure a great experience especially when you can do extra processing just in case the aviar or home theater receiver that you purchased doesn't have a built-in Dsp powerful enough to deal with your specific application.
the newest HDMI audio standard supports 37 megabits of actual transmission (around four and a half megabytes a second) or eight fully uncompressed 192/ 24 streams.
for example imagine using something like a Raspberry Pi 4 or 5 in the future running with just ethernet cable to the Raspberry Pi, been having its HDMI output connect directly to a receiver actively powering the individual drivers in the speaker. you would also have more than enough power for a large line array along with multiple subwoofers being dual voice coil would really take advantage of the extra channels of the receiver.
those of you that are in the theater in lighting industry would really appreciate something like this as you would now be able to have multiple effects in your setups and specially for those of you that use audio in places where you do special effects.
there would also be happy occasions and Public Safety as you could use a general receiver and of course a Raspberry Pi in combination to make the ultimate crosswalk system. this would really benefit folks that have either lost their Vision or have had some kind of impairment where they are not able to easily press buttons on a crosswalk Etc.
I better get to bed I just wanted to share some ideas
another thing of note is that a lot of video game systems have a whole lot of horsepower that is simply not being put to use and would be perfect for an audio system that could easily do multiple channels of signal processing and it wouldn't even break a sweat.
even the original Xbox and PS2 not only had firewire outputs but also had optical outputs as well. I believe this is the same for the Xbox 360 which is nearing its end of life but it still supported by Microsoft. it even has USB ports ethernet and therefore you can do quite a bit with this box if something was to happen on this platform.
as time goes by a lot of video game systems will basically become E-Waste and again it'll take close to 10 or 20 years before they gain popularity or Niche status.
having something like this available to just about everyone would really open the doors for a lot of folks. the fact that we have literally millions if not billions of Home Theater receivers with perfectly good working amplifiers and of course all having HDMI we'll maintain a full Digital Signal chain along with a built-in amplifier.
with all the CPU and Chip shortages of the current date which seemingly is going to happen for the next four to five years, this should be a great way to reuse all that old Hardware that many people already own.
as it stands today HDMI 2.1, eARC can handle 32 channels of uncompressed audio, or up to 8 channels of 24-bit/192kHz audio per port. that means that even a Raspberry Pi 4 with dual HDMI has a capability of doing at least 16 channels.
provided that most speakers are only three way systems with a subwoofer this would also allow you to do some really cool things with bass shakers and other items that you want to install in your home theater system for example.
this would be a great use case for old home theater receivers that are at the older standard where they still support eight channels of a compressed audio however they don't support the newer video standards so this would allow reusing of older equipment that is still quite high quality in many cases.
seeing that most of our devices that are at least somewhat average mid to high-end support HDMI output this would be a perfect way to pipe a video and audio signal and do all the processing that is needed to get the high-quality signal out of your device.
with physical media going the way of the dodo with Blu-ray still being the last holdout for absolutely high-definition content at 4K, future video formats such as 8K in 10k are on the horizon and those will undoubtedly be served digitally.
you are still going to have the issue of audio routing and of course your speakers having the option of preferably running them active will ensure a great experience especially when you can do extra processing just in case the aviar or home theater receiver that you purchased doesn't have a built-in Dsp powerful enough to deal with your specific application.
the newest HDMI audio standard supports 37 megabits of actual transmission (around four and a half megabytes a second) or eight fully uncompressed 192/ 24 streams.
for example imagine using something like a Raspberry Pi 4 or 5 in the future running with just ethernet cable to the Raspberry Pi, been having its HDMI output connect directly to a receiver actively powering the individual drivers in the speaker. you would also have more than enough power for a large line array along with multiple subwoofers being dual voice coil would really take advantage of the extra channels of the receiver.
those of you that are in the theater in lighting industry would really appreciate something like this as you would now be able to have multiple effects in your setups and specially for those of you that use audio in places where you do special effects.
there would also be happy occasions and Public Safety as you could use a general receiver and of course a Raspberry Pi in combination to make the ultimate crosswalk system. this would really benefit folks that have either lost their Vision or have had some kind of impairment where they are not able to easily press buttons on a crosswalk Etc.
I better get to bed I just wanted to share some ideas