I am looking for an 8 inch woofer/driver for a 2 way design. I stumbled onto the Audax HM210G0 years ago, used it for a 2 way design and was delighted with the sound. Today, sadly, the Audax is no longer available.
What I am looking for is something suitable for BR design (Qts < .4) and that can be crossed over at 2K or higher. I find that paper cones just sound better and any cone breakups at HF are easier to deal with, compared to the exotic materials of today. Did I say that price is an issue? Something under $150.00USD would be nice......Ideas??
What I am looking for is something suitable for BR design (Qts < .4) and that can be crossed over at 2K or higher. I find that paper cones just sound better and any cone breakups at HF are easier to deal with, compared to the exotic materials of today. Did I say that price is an issue? Something under $150.00USD would be nice......Ideas??
The CA22RNX is a good woofer.
http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_257&products_id=1600
The peerless nomex is probably the best value.
http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_257&products_id=1614
http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_257&products_id=1600
The peerless nomex is probably the best value.
http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_257&products_id=1614
Inductor said:For about ~1/2 the price of the Seas and Perless you have the studio edition Beyma 8BR40, 90dB with a copper voice coil and Le=0.7mH.
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Beyma: Item Price: $65.99 New Low Price
....http://www.usspeaker.com/beyma 8BR40-1.htm
Peerless 8" HDS Nomex: $58.75
....http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1614
For a little less than the price of the Beyma you could have the Peerless HDS Nomex woofer. Did I miss something? Is that price for the Beyma for TWO woofers???
But, the Beyma does indeed look more like the old classic 8" paper speaker woofer found in inexpensive but fun to listen to 2-way bookshelf speakers, like the ones I used to have from the late/mid 1970's that I loved so much myself.
This looks like a good contender s/b pretty sweet sound crossed at 2KHz with a 2nd order.
Silver Flute W20RC38-08, 8" Wool Cone http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_257&products_id=848
Silver Flute W20RC38-08, 8" Wool Cone http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_257&products_id=848
Looks good for a small vented box
unibox = 91.7 dB/2.83V/m
should go past 40W given a big port
FYI this person sells a 2 way with this driver http://www.jupiter-audio.com/pages/europa.html
unibox = 91.7 dB/2.83V/m
should go past 40W given a big port
FYI this person sells a 2 way with this driver http://www.jupiter-audio.com/pages/europa.html
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I got a pair each of these audax 8 incher
http://www.hautparleur.fr/_audax/ap210m0.pdf
http://www.hautparleur.fr/_audax/ap210g6.pdf
and a Vifa D27TG-35 1" Silk Dome Tweeter
http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/264-526.pdf
Can anyone share a design to make best use of these speakers? preferably using active crossover.
Thanks.
http://www.hautparleur.fr/_audax/ap210m0.pdf
http://www.hautparleur.fr/_audax/ap210g6.pdf
and a Vifa D27TG-35 1" Silk Dome Tweeter
http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/264-526.pdf
Can anyone share a design to make best use of these speakers? preferably using active crossover.
Thanks.
critofur said:For a little less than the price of the Beyma you could have the Peerless HDS Nomex woofer. Did I miss something? Is that price for the Beyma for TWO woofers???
Don't take me wrong. Price in Spain (Europe) before taxes for Beyma is about 29,86 Euro (2009), and it was about 40,00 Euro (2006).
If the box size is not a problem I suggest you a 6,5"
Monacor SPH170
You can cross above 3000/3500Hz without problem
The bass is more better than Beyma 8BR40 ( it´s only a good midbass, but forget deep bass)
The SPH170 have more deep and controled bass in 40 liters than more 8", the sound is more similar to paper cones than polypropilene and you can cross with 1st or 2nd orden crossover, then you have many tweeters options
With an 0,82 or 1 mH it can be easy compensated BaffleStep
( and Yes, I read thath you are searching an 8", sorry for the intromission)
Monacor SPH170
You can cross above 3000/3500Hz without problem
The bass is more better than Beyma 8BR40 ( it´s only a good midbass, but forget deep bass)
The SPH170 have more deep and controled bass in 40 liters than more 8", the sound is more similar to paper cones than polypropilene and you can cross with 1st or 2nd orden crossover, then you have many tweeters options
With an 0,82 or 1 mH it can be easy compensated BaffleStep
( and Yes, I read thath you are searching an 8", sorry for the intromission)
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MJS said:If the box size is not a problem I suggest you a 6,5"
Monacor SPH170
Funny that the new and probably better SPH-176 is cheaper
I plan to try the SPH-176 in a pair of Lowther horns I have in the garage
I will use some very cheap cone tweeters
But I dont think Monacor is available in US
Which reminds me of Jantzen JA8008
They are sold in US
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/JA8008.htm
http://www.e-speakers.com/-strse-357/JANTZEN-JA-dsh-8008/Detail.bok
Tangbands latest underhung midwoofers with good Xmax, shortrings etc, could be a cheap alternative
MJS said:If the box size is not a problem I suggest you a 6,5"
Monacor SPH170
You can cross above 3000/3500Hz without problem
The bass is more better than Beyma 8BR40 ( it´s only a good midbass, but forget deep bass)
The SPH170 have more deep and controled bass in 40 liters than more 8", the sound is more similar to paper cones than polypropilene and you can cross with 1st or 2nd orden crossover, then you have many tweeters options
With an 0,82 or 1 mH it can be easy compensated BaffleStep
( and Yes, I read thath you are searching an 8", sorry for the intromission)
Did you test the Beyma in a closed box?
What kind of surround is on this speaker, SPH170 (I get conflicted information)?
Also on my list of reference 8" drivers are:
The Volt studio range BM220.8 (plastic cone w/min. colouration, price?)
Vifa 21WN 340/8 (~93,00 Euro)
Note: also consider the Visaton GF 200 2 x 4 OHM (not paper). After all I believe you will find the best paper cone of all.
Yes, and old project with 8BR40 and Monacor SPH60 X (FullRange) crossed at 300 Hz in a 25/30 liters closed box, the bass is not deep, a very nice sound about 100 Hz, very good midbass from 100Hz to 400/500 Hz but no more
Depending on yours probably you need a Sub
I have lost the measurements in a PC change, sorry
I like very much the sound of paper´s cones, in a four way system the 8BR40 it will be one of the first drivers but no more, the surround is good (sorry for my english, i think is called rubber surround)
I´m spanish, its easy for me buy Beyma drivers but i had many deceptions with this drivers, please consider other options or you will need a Sub or other driver
An 8" for a two way is always a difficult decission, usually it´s possible but you may consider the dificulties of crossover
Regards
Depending on yours probably you need a Sub
I have lost the measurements in a PC change, sorry
I like very much the sound of paper´s cones, in a four way system the 8BR40 it will be one of the first drivers but no more, the surround is good (sorry for my english, i think is called rubber surround)
I´m spanish, its easy for me buy Beyma drivers but i had many deceptions with this drivers, please consider other options or you will need a Sub or other driver
An 8" for a two way is always a difficult decission, usually it´s possible but you may consider the dificulties of crossover
Regards
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Hi Stoc005,
I'm sure in your 8" driver research you found Zaph's tests?
I use the Peerless 830884, it is an absolutely excellent driver. My next top choices would be the Seas CA22RNX, and the Usher 8147A, which isn't paper cone at all, but it does perform well and the look of the cone is certainly unique.
I'm sure in your 8" driver research you found Zaph's tests?
I use the Peerless 830884, it is an absolutely excellent driver. My next top choices would be the Seas CA22RNX, and the Usher 8147A, which isn't paper cone at all, but it does perform well and the look of the cone is certainly unique.
Have you checked out the Seas p 21 rf/p (h511) ? I know you wanted paper and this ones poly but its flat out to 2k and can be crossed as high as 3k And as always there is the seas build quality, plus in a 1.2 cu ft box you'll get a f3 of 40hz. Not bad for one driver and on special at madisound 59.00 ea.
A cheap 8 inch paper cone woofer for a bassreflex is the Monacor SPH 212. Digs flat to 30Hz, but I don't know how high it really plays since I've only used it as a sub.
http://www.bmm-electronics.com/Product.asp?Product_ID=5529
Just my 2 eurocents ...
http://www.bmm-electronics.com/Product.asp?Product_ID=5529
Just my 2 eurocents ...
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