Ofcourse most of you dont... just because you know u can get better value for money stuffs , or can build your own with custom selected components... and if that is what you think... please dont judge me for posting this.
i was not talking about resistors.
but mostly anything.
look:
http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...GAEpiMZZMtxdzBvM0rKcQ1JViOTVmyy7rq%2baZfemj4=
see the price for 1 ? right. see the rpice for 1000 of them. makes a diference you know.
same deal you have for any component.
and even so, mouser has a prfit on it, i guess nothing stopiing a company go get a bulk purchase right from a manufacturer.
this is not about degrading the quality of this unit,
rather to point out that bulk purchase makes the investment far more affordable.
wich i suspect no one would argue with, as you could verry simply verify my claim with the given link.
thing is, even if its a formidable unit, its far overpriced for its content in my opinion.
and that ain't no trolling. i just refuse to pay /read, i personally/ that kind of money for a cute logo. its just common sense.
in a world where /and i ain't accusing here anyone//
https://consumerist.com/2010/01/17/...new-case-charges-3000-markup-and-gets-caught/
this can happen, and even mark levinson /and therfore partially harman/ has done simular, anything that is high riced for what its inside, is something i prefer to call overpriced. call me stupid / troll on that if you must.
but mostly anything.
look:
http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...GAEpiMZZMtxdzBvM0rKcQ1JViOTVmyy7rq%2baZfemj4=
see the price for 1 ? right. see the rpice for 1000 of them. makes a diference you know.
same deal you have for any component.
and even so, mouser has a prfit on it, i guess nothing stopiing a company go get a bulk purchase right from a manufacturer.
this is not about degrading the quality of this unit,
rather to point out that bulk purchase makes the investment far more affordable.
wich i suspect no one would argue with, as you could verry simply verify my claim with the given link.
thing is, even if its a formidable unit, its far overpriced for its content in my opinion.
and that ain't no trolling. i just refuse to pay /read, i personally/ that kind of money for a cute logo. its just common sense.
in a world where /and i ain't accusing here anyone//
https://consumerist.com/2010/01/17/...new-case-charges-3000-markup-and-gets-caught/
this can happen, and even mark levinson /and therfore partially harman/ has done simular, anything that is high riced for what its inside, is something i prefer to call overpriced. call me stupid / troll on that if you must.
Like I said, do the same maths on ANY new consumer product. iPhones are particularly bad for selling cost to parts price. Once you have realised how the world works you realise these are not poor value. The Behringer B2031A is possibly better value, but neither are a rip off.
You should note that around here engineering is marveled as much as price of parts. A wonderful design shines with cheaper parts, even if it could shine brighter with better parts.
If you want to see expensive parts in an audio product, the prices might make you weep.
People don't always understand the value of DIY. What cost you many hundreds could be thousands as a product.
If you want to see expensive parts in an audio product, the prices might make you weep.
People don't always understand the value of DIY. What cost you many hundreds could be thousands as a product.
yes I Build excellent 2.0 with lm1875
I brought Mark Audio chr 70 full range drivers for 60 uk (6k in india rupees for pair) pounds. After lot of research on diyaudio I decided to build LM1875 chip amp. While surfing for components I brought PSU & CHIP AMP in eightaudio and those are reasonable cheap around 600 rupess (9 dollars). for 3 dollars I brought 15V-0-15V transformer and second hand Philips 2.0 cabinets and removed crappy speakers from this. Finally I assembled all.
Oh my god It is my first build and It performs excellent with flac files and 320kbps.for 30% volume in my laptop it is filling my entire room with audio. Sound is crisp. For newbies pls go with custom build.
I brought Mark Audio chr 70 full range drivers for 60 uk (6k in india rupees for pair) pounds. After lot of research on diyaudio I decided to build LM1875 chip amp. While surfing for components I brought PSU & CHIP AMP in eightaudio and those are reasonable cheap around 600 rupess (9 dollars). for 3 dollars I brought 15V-0-15V transformer and second hand Philips 2.0 cabinets and removed crappy speakers from this. Finally I assembled all.
Oh my god It is my first build and It performs excellent with flac files and 320kbps.for 30% volume in my laptop it is filling my entire room with audio. Sound is crisp. For newbies pls go with custom build.
thanks for your reply.
Thank you for your reply.
Actually plan is to build cabinets. But in India it is too hard to make cabinets with equipment. In future Definitely I will build 5.1 channel cabinets.
Thank you for your reply.
Actually plan is to build cabinets. But in India it is too hard to make cabinets with equipment. In future Definitely I will build 5.1 channel cabinets.
highly unlikely, as to build a speaker cabinet you don't really need a lot of tools at all.
osb or mdf boards are 99% of the time sold with an optin to get them cut to size.
even if not, not really hard to get a saw, or just rent it till you cut your stuff to size.
then all you need is a drill. you can rent that too. if all else fails you can re-cycle old furniture for boards. even if it may sound a bit.... unsophisticated its still better than a cabinet that is not designed for the given speaker.
parts for crossovers can absolutely be found with ease all around the world, if not, the internet is your friend. i bet you can recive a mail even in india. its not an isolated cave you know.
anyways its pointless to just slap a speaker in a random box. its absolutely unlikely it will sound even remotely what is should.
osb or mdf boards are 99% of the time sold with an optin to get them cut to size.
even if not, not really hard to get a saw, or just rent it till you cut your stuff to size.
then all you need is a drill. you can rent that too. if all else fails you can re-cycle old furniture for boards. even if it may sound a bit.... unsophisticated its still better than a cabinet that is not designed for the given speaker.
parts for crossovers can absolutely be found with ease all around the world, if not, the internet is your friend. i bet you can recive a mail even in india. its not an isolated cave you know.
anyways its pointless to just slap a speaker in a random box. its absolutely unlikely it will sound even remotely what is should.
That's what I wanted to say. A good design is more than the sum of its parts, just like a good song is more than just a succession of notes and chords.
Understanding the limitations of parts makes you a better designer. Understanding where in the circuit parts upgrades actually make a difference makes you a better designer. I use three different types of 1/4 watt resistors in my builds and only use the fancy expensive resistors (V-D CMF series) in feedback networks and active filter circuits. I also have cheaper metal film resistors that I buy in bulk, and carbon resistors too. I also use several different types of electrolytic capacitors too.
This is probably a well parsed integrated design. Active filtering to smooth out the speaker's frequency response and an appropriate high pass filter on the woofer go a long way towards better sound. The parts cost to achieve this is pennies but if properly designed it will bring the performance to a whole new level. This is the threshold where the sum becomes more than the parts.
It requires an engineer to juggle all these issues and come up with the best possible design. Research and development costs a lot of money.
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